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Led not into temptation: pope approves change to Lord's Prayer
guardian ^ | 6/76/2019 | harriet sherwood

Posted on 06/07/2019 7:12:21 AM PDT by RummyChick

Its words are memorised by Christian children all over the world and repeated at almost every act of Christian worship: “Our Father, who art in heaven … ”

Now Pope Francis has risked the wrath of traditionalists by approving a change to the wording of the Lord’s Prayer. Instead of saying “lead us not into temptation”, it will say “do not let us fall into temptation”.

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To: RummyChick
What's next?

"Do not let us fall into temptation, but deliver us from evil Donald Trump and Republicans"????

41 posted on 06/07/2019 9:22:49 AM PDT by DJ Frisat ( (optional, printed after my name on post))
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To: drypowder

This is a false assertion. Quote the 10 commandments, with chapter and verse, and I will show you the exact thing from a Catholic translation.

I know it’s easy to inadvertently lose track of requests, so I will remind you again if you don’t respond.


42 posted on 06/07/2019 10:00:38 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Whatever is pure, anything of excellence, and anything praiseworthy—keep thinking about these thing)
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To: RummyChick

False pope.


43 posted on 06/07/2019 10:41:17 AM PDT by bgill (when you badmouth women, you are badmouthing your mama and the good women on FR)
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To: RummyChick

A few pages inside the front cover of any Bible is a copyright notice. They can change their product any time they choose, as the Catholic Church has done countless times in the past.


44 posted on 06/07/2019 2:14:05 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: Telepathic Intruder
The actual words of Jesus is...

This is a beauty. Who recorded the actual words of Jesus, given that the New Testament wasn't written as Jesus spoke the words, but sometime later. Not only that, each Apostle's account was a bit different. Then there are the translations...

45 posted on 06/07/2019 2:19:56 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: Mrs. Don-o

I think what is meant is that they number them differently.

https://www.catholicbible101.com/thetencommandments.htm


46 posted on 06/07/2019 2:58:05 PM PDT by scrabblehack
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To: GingisK
Matthew's version is:
καὶ μὴ εἰσενέγκῃς ἡμᾶς εἰς πειρασμόν
Luke's version is exactly the same:
καὶ μὴ εἰσενέγκῃς ἡμᾶς εἰς πειρασμόν
47 posted on 06/07/2019 3:02:43 PM PDT by scrabblehack
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To: Lazamataz

There are several translations of the Pater Nostra.


48 posted on 06/07/2019 6:26:41 PM PDT by pacific_waters
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To: scrabblehack

How do we know for a fact that one man didn’t write both? Do we have fingerprints or something, or just somebody’s word for it?


49 posted on 06/07/2019 6:27:01 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: Jess Kitting; RummyChick

“lead us not into temptation” is not literal, it’s simply a rhetorical way of saying Lord, lead us down the right path. That’s what God has planned for us anyway, he just wants to hear it from us. Another thing, when Jesus spoke these words along with the entire prayer, he was giving the disciples an example of how to pray, he never intended for the entire prayer to be repeated verbatim during church services in a repetitive manner. God wants to hear from our hearts with prayer in our own words. So by unnecessarily changing the words in the prayer, the Pope is essentially doing just that, further promoting the prayer as a repetitive religious ritual by bringing attention to the change he made, not what God intended. And that’s an example of why the Pope shouldn’t be tampering with God’s written word.


50 posted on 06/10/2019 8:19:46 AM PDT by ScottfromNJ
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