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George Will: GOP has become a 'cult' of Trump
The Hill ^ | 6/05/19 | Justin Wise

Posted on 06/05/2019 2:40:48 PM PDT by detective

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To: detective

George loves ideas, theories that live in his head that don’t work in real life. Go sell your flawed theories to your friends at your Washington cocktail parties, George. The rest of America is buying.


41 posted on 06/05/2019 2:56:46 PM PDT by mbrfl
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To: detective

Could we have a rule here that the word “conservative” is not automatically affixed to his name?

And others.


42 posted on 06/05/2019 2:56:52 PM PDT by bigbob (Trust Trump. Trust the Plan.)
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To: xzins

I think George is in early dementia.

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I disagree.

The “never Trumpers” of which George Will is a member, are for the most part Neo-Trotskyites who have posed for a long while as “conservatives”.

Globalism, under the guise of “free trade” was draining us economically and that wasn’t an accident. The sovereignty of our borders was under constant assault and that was by design.

These “conservatives” always raised a fuss if any real action was taken to fight back in the culture war against the domestic enemy. They sided strongly and loudly with those who were draining our economy and dismantling our borders.

I’m sure someone somewhere can dig up an occasional piece or minor quote where one or other of the Never Trumpers or even G. Will himself spoke out against this or that. That’s what approved opposition does. Occasionally make noise to distract while aiding the domestic enemy in their tasks.

The “ideas” that are being done away with are those exact ideas that have been harming our country for a long time now.

And he’s angry that they’re being taken out of play.

Remember. With him and his fellow travelers it was always: don’t fight back. don’t resist. if you do, you’re just as bad as they are.

Which functionally translates to: submit.


43 posted on 06/05/2019 2:57:22 PM PDT by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: detective

That’s true. Reagan did impose tariffs. But Gingrich and the GOP were promoting free trade. They pretty much own NAFTA.


44 posted on 06/05/2019 2:57:40 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: mbrfl

Correction - “The rest of America ISN’T buying”


45 posted on 06/05/2019 2:57:48 PM PDT by mbrfl
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To: detective

Trump joined our cult, we didn’t join his, he use to be a democrat!!


46 posted on 06/05/2019 2:57:57 PM PDT by big bad easter bunny
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FUGW...


47 posted on 06/05/2019 2:58:22 PM PDT by Doogle (( USAF.68-73....8th TFW Ubon Thailand....never store a threat you should have eliminated)))
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To: detective

As if it wasn’t a Ronald Reagan mystery cult for years? Where annointed establishmentarians pledged their loyalty to the great spirit of Reagan in hopes that that would be enough to get elected? To have scum like McCain pretend he had something to offer by uttering Ronald Reagan’s name like it was a magic spell?

Donald Trump is the first person in decades who had something new to offer besides panegyrics to Reagan.


48 posted on 06/05/2019 2:58:23 PM PDT by Shadow44
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To: detective

Nobody cares what the bow tied little sock puppet thinks.


49 posted on 06/05/2019 2:59:51 PM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: detective

No Georgie, we’re an anti bow-tie cult.


50 posted on 06/05/2019 2:59:58 PM PDT by Eagles Field
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To: detective

This guy has all the insight of a cube of coal buried at 2000 feet.


51 posted on 06/05/2019 3:01:43 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Can I get a shout out for the person(s) who donated $2,000.00 from France? Thanks so much! Wow!)
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To: Shadow44

Your #48 is excellent! Thank you!


52 posted on 06/05/2019 3:01:59 PM PDT by JonPreston
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To: detective

Admiration for Donald J. Trump is a “cult”?

The REAL cult behavior is the adamantly anti-Trumpers out there, that accuse the President of various and sundry “crimes”, none of which they are able to specify, but of which, they are all absolutely positively certain he has committed.

Stalin’s head of secret police Lavrentiy Pavlovich Beria: “Show me the man and I will show you the crime.”


53 posted on 06/05/2019 3:03:15 PM PDT by alloysteel (The difference between real life and fiction? Fiction has to make sense and follow some logic.)
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To: detective

Tariffs are a means to tariff-less and fair free trade George and you know it damn well but choose to obfuscate . We’re not listening.


54 posted on 06/05/2019 3:03:34 PM PDT by chiller (As Davey Crockett once said: Be sure you're right. Then go ahead. I'm goin' ahead.)
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To: detective

I remember George Will.


55 posted on 06/05/2019 3:04:31 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (This Space For Rant)
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To: dirtymac
”I wish we would quit calling him a conservative. It is used like a title, which he most surely does not deserve. Rush Limbaugh is a conservative. I am a conservative also. George Will is not a conservative.”

A Conservative is someone who believes in “conserving” our founding principles, especially as enshrined in the Constitution. And to that point, the Founders intended for the federal government to be funded with revenue derived from tariffs. The Constitution makes express allowance for this very thing. And for much of the country’s history, that’s exactly how the government was funded. It was only after imposition of the income tax in 1928 that tariffs fell out of favor as a funding mechanism.

So, who is the real “Conservative” here? Certainly not George Will, who is nothing more than an effete New England liberal Republican. He doesn’t have the faintest idea what he is blabbering about.

56 posted on 06/05/2019 3:04:56 PM PDT by noiseman (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.`)
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To: detective

George Will is a has-been-never-was who became irrelevant before Trump was ever a candidate.


57 posted on 06/05/2019 3:05:04 PM PDT by Hostage (Article V)
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To: detective

Whereas Will has become a toady of the establishment globalists.


58 posted on 06/05/2019 3:05:25 PM PDT by circlecity
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To: noiseman

Conservatism without Nationalism is like Faith without Works.

And Conservative Orthodoxy is anti-Nationalist. They are 100% globalists.


59 posted on 06/05/2019 3:07:51 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: detective
Conservatism is a coalition of different people and groups. So is liberalism. There are some strong common factors that people are loyal to, but there is much variability within each ideological group. There are factions and elites that try to define and speak for the whole movement or coalition. In fact, there are competing factions and elites, wrestling with each other for control, but they don't speak for everyone in the coalition.

The Wall Street Journal or National Review or the Weekly Standard didn't speak for everyone who voted for Nixon or Reagan or Bush. Average voters weren't motivated by what drove the intellectuals and movement ideologues. But Will has lived his whole live among those intellectuals and ideologues (now perhaps more among the intellectuals and ideologues of the other side), so he doesn't understand that global "free trade" was never an obsession for the average Republican voter or the average American.

If people thought freer trade would benefit the country and themselves they supported it, but there was not a strong ideological commitment to free trade at the expense of the national interest and domestic prosperity. The vision of a borderless world that gripped many ideologues, right and left, was never shared by ordinary Americans.

George Will was always ridiculed for working quotations from dead politicians - usually 18th or 19th century British politicians - into his columns. I never really saw any of that in his work, but I will respond in the same spirit with a quote from Benjamin Disraeli (1804-1881): "Protection is not a principle but an expedient. ... Free trade is not a principle. It is an expedient."

60 posted on 06/05/2019 3:08:23 PM PDT by x
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