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North Korea's 2017 nuke test was 16 times bigger than Hiroshima bomb: Report
The Washington Times ^ | June 3, 2019 | Ben Wolfgang

Posted on 06/03/2019 10:11:19 AM PDT by be-baw

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To: USS Alaska

If I remember right, the deep state line was to down play the potential size of the nukes. They even tried to state the early ones were not nukes. So it took 2 years to leak the truth from the Deep State.


21 posted on 06/03/2019 1:33:10 PM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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Yes...very “successful” LOL! I read a report that a lot of people died!

If the report was correct, 200 of their nuke scientists.

22 posted on 06/03/2019 2:02:08 PM PDT by afterhoursarmory
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Yes, of course we did, and who is surprised by this news?

Hiroshima was then. NorK/Iranian nukes are now.

23 posted on 06/03/2019 2:54:48 PM PDT by OKSooner (Shoot the coyotes.)
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To: DoughtyOne; USS Alaska

We well knew the seismic disturbance after a couple of weeks.

Determining the blast yield on an underground test is tricky.

There were 3 parts to the blast, conventional detonator explosion, followed by a supposed fission explosion and a third disputed explosion which may have been an attempted fusion explosion.

The timing closeness had to be separated to look at the individual blast yields.

Good study on blast yields here:

https://apps.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a223490.pdf

Lastly and most importantly, we have little data on the rock and soil density of the blast chamber, just some very old mining surveys. That greatly affects the seismic measurements.

There was very little venting to sniff for byproducts of fission and possibly fusion.


24 posted on 06/03/2019 3:24:42 PM PDT by gandalftb
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Thanks for the link and the discussion of the dynamics.

I would think that yields must have been available shortly after it took place.

As I understand it, there’s a very wide area where the seismic activity can be observed from, technologically.

At distance the devices may not see a strong graph showing, but then the distance can be factored in.

Is that an exact science. As you say, most likely not, but you could come up with a high and low that would cover most possibilities.

I do understand the dynamics you address, the strata, the blocking of full seismic activity being transferred.

I could be all wet. I’m just referencing things I’ve heard of in the past.


25 posted on 06/03/2019 8:08:11 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Can I get a shout out for the person(s) who donated $2,000.00 from France? Thanks so much! Wow!)
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The other variable is the depth of the blast, which is unknown. Guesses are about 300 meters max.

This article gets a bit out of hand at the size of the yield.

NORSAR has estimated a yield of no more than 120 kilotons of TNT, six times larger than the atomic bomb dropped on Nagasaki.

The most disturbing fact is not the size of the yields, but the 3rd blast portion could have only occurred by a fusion blast.....That’s an H-bomb. How did they manage that?


26 posted on 06/03/2019 9:59:59 PM PDT by gandalftb
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It’s been my take for a long time that China was much more involved than we were led to believe.

There’s your source.

Thank you for your observations, estimations. I appreciate your insight.


27 posted on 06/03/2019 10:04:49 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Can I get a shout out for the person(s) who donated $2,000.00 from France? Thanks so much! Wow!)
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China seems a natural supporter.

Fusion technology is readily available from the Russians, whom I suspect.

What is odd is that China has a seismic post and an air sniffer for isotopes very close to the blast site. That post has greatly contributed to the monitoring data for all the NK nuke tests.

China, also has contributed little to their fission program.


28 posted on 06/04/2019 11:37:45 AM PDT by gandalftb
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To: gandalftb

Thanks for the mention.


29 posted on 06/04/2019 12:34:04 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Can I get a shout out for the person(s) who donated $2,000.00 from France? Thanks so much! Wow!)
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