Posted on 05/29/2019 12:14:58 PM PDT by mbrfl
The politics of this races was especially unique.
In 2017, the Democrats were coming off of a near win in the neighboring Georgia 6th House District special election between Karen Handel and Jon Ossoff. They were desperate to set the narrative that the Trump victory was not a mandate if they could show a deep-red Georgia district that had been Republican since Newt Gingrich won the seat in 1978 would now go Democrat, supposedly as buyer's remorse for electing Trump.
Democrats wanted to set the table for a wave election in 2018. Hollywood poured record-breaking money into this race, but Handel won 52-48.
They tried to repeat this narrative in Alabama at the end of the year in the special election to fill the Senate seat vacated by Jeff Sessions. They had to resort to forged yearbooks and specious memories to do it, but this time the Democrats succeeded.
Handel also lost her seat in Georgia in the 2018 election.
-PJ
He already defied federal leftist tyrants in robes the first time around, was removed for exercising his Constitutional rights, and was then returned to his office again. That was not the issue with the voters.
This time, it was a deliberate, coordinated character assassination with unproven claims and the corrupt, establishment GOP working to make sure he wouldn’t win the special election by any means. They wanted the Democrat to win. It was that simple. I don’t believe Jones’s win was legitimate by any stretch.
You don’t think POTUS gets wind of these things before the general public hears about them. Don’t be naïve. And Trump’s statements before hand made general references to his concern that Moore might have a hard time getting elected.
Whatever attack the left would have tried to use on Luther Strange would have paled in comparison to what they trotted out with Moore. Moore had a history of gaffs and less than flattering sound bites, the kind of thing the left just eat up.
There was nothing Constitutional or moral about what Wallace did. Chief Justice Moore was acting within his rights and was doing the Constitutional AND moral thing. There is simply no comparison.
Unreliable on what issues exactly ?
One of the things that Republicans do to win the favor of Democrats is deal to keep the status quo. They figured that if the Democrats were going to abandon Franken, then Republicans had to do the same with Moore, even though Moore didn't do anything wrong. He was simply a convenient sacrifice to Republican favor-groveling.
-PJ
That’s when you know you’re dealing with an awful candidate. A guy who spends the entire campaign rallying support FROM PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO VOTE FOR HIM ANYWAY has no business running for public office.
Well, if I agreed that the Deplorable Agenda was all about losing on principle, I would agree with. That’s the old way that got us into this mess. Trump is about winning. Losing gracefully and on principle is not what he’s about. And thank God for that.
Bannon and most of the conservative ‘leaders’ up until Trump were for all intents and purposes, controlled opposition. Losing on principle gets us no where. And perhaps that’s what the wanted all along. If you want to keep following the pearl clutching conservative leaders who got us absolutely nothing for so many years, be my guest. Trump’s election proves most of the voters prefer Trump’s strategy and priorities.
Frankly, both parties are in bed with one another (Dems & GOP Establishment). Anyone who freaks out the establishment is the candidate to support. Losing their $hit over Moore proved how right he was to be in the Senate. Somebody who had the balls to stand up to this corrupt federal government and their homofascist, anti-constitutional edicts.
Moore should just go away — because he doesn’t know the first thing about how to work in a legislative body.
Maybe the slime that controls the party will support conservatives rather than lose the US Senate majority. Traitor Ryan did nothing to save the majority in the House.
Moore did not campaign that last weekend before the election. He went to a U.S. Military Academy football game. I never saw anything come of his supposed lawsuits against his female accusers. His time is past, and I hope he realizes it.
I have voted against U.S. Sen. Richard Shelby in the last 2 AL GOP primaries in which he was a candidate. He was a DemonRat before he switched to the GOP. His voting record on GOP issues has been weak for years. He's in his 80's now. Stabbing Roy Moore in the back just adds to my contempt of Shelby.
As stated upthread, Mo Brooks has, for the moment at least, withdrawn from the primary for U.S. Sen. Doug Jones seat. Reading between the lines, one gets the impression that he thinks he is just too unknown in LA (Lower Alabama). He remains my preference.
The apparent GOP frontrunner is U.S. Rep. Bradley Byrne, a RINO who is in the pocket of the AEA (Alabama Education Association). Only as a last resort would I vote for him.
A Senate Majority Leader isn’t elected in the same way as House Speaker. It wouldn’t matter if he withheld a vote in caucus. Other than that, what would he vote against ? Saying “all of them” is absurd. He’s not a leftist, so he’s not going to support a leftist agenda.
“Roy could win if it weren’t for “conservatives”.”
No. There are more than just conservatives in Alabama. There are moderates, LIV’s and even a few liberals. They are the ones who voted against Roy Moore in higher than average numbers.
There are plenty of conservatives in Alabama who moderates, and LIV’s would vote for. They are the ones that were susceptible to the smears against Roy Moore, not conservatives. And they’re the ones that made the difference. What’s the definition of insanity? Repeating the same thing and expecting a different result. Getting a pro-Maga conservative elected to the Alabama Senate seat is the hill to die on -not getting Roy Moore elected. If Roy Moore thinks it should be the other way around then I have to question his priorities and his character.
What Moore did was the political equivalent of charging a machine gun nest over open ground with no cover fire. Such actions accomplish nothing. He was forcing issues that were not going to be decided by state courts.
The only way to fight those issues is through national elections for reps, senators and presidents who will support laws and federal judges who share such values.
He would have been the Senate version of Justine Amash — the “principled conservative” who votes with Nancy Pelosi most of the time ... and just claims to be doing it for a different reason.
As I said above, his actions were heroic. We need more people like him that stand up to unconstitutional, bad and vile rulings and edicts from the tyrannical Derp State class.
Too risky!
The Senate seat is too important.
Your suspicions have no basis in reality. If he were to be a leftist flake or loon like Amash, that would’ve been reflected in his prior judicial service. He would’ve been an excellent, pro-Constitutional and anti-establishment Conservative Senator. The only pain he would’ve been was to corrupt RINOs, and we need as many “pains” as possible.
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