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To: Kaslin

They don’t need no steenkin’ collusion. They have obstruction. Any attempt at legal self defense by Trump is obstruction of the inquistion.

For example, take two recent examples. Trump will fight the release of his tax returns, and having had enough of being smacked around after cooperating for two and a half years, will block further testimony by executive employees, such as McGahn.

In a criminal trial... especially of a favored defendant, whether an illegal or a popular rich guy lik OJ... the defense is entitled to fight the production and validity of evidence as long and hard as it can. Here, with no charge in sight, Trump is called guilty of collusion if he makes the investigation in search of a crime more difficult.


8 posted on 05/23/2019 4:31:32 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine ( "It's always a party when you're eating the seed corn.")
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To: Pearls Before Swine

What you are saying is right …. and it is amazing. The president has been bludgeoned for 2-1/2 years, even going back to being president-elect and earlier. The media has been +90% against him, accusing him of racism, misogyny, being Hitler, corrupt, colluding with Russians and on and on ad infinitum.

Yet any defense at all, on his part, is “Obstruction of Justice!”. If he talks about firing Mueller, but DOESN’T DO IT, they still call it obstruction! This is unbelievable!

By the way, if these bozos go through with their impeachment threat, I believe there will be a 10 Million Man March on Washington and I intend to be there.


9 posted on 05/23/2019 5:10:58 AM PDT by JohnEBoy
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To: Pearls Before Swine

“the defense is entitled to fight the production and validity of evidence as long and hard as it can”

I know you were using this to make a different point...but for those very impatient to see things like Declassification (publication, essentially), and “perp walks” this is something that is very important remember.

In our system, the standard of proof is on the prosecution. And the validity of evidence - and the fairness of the trial - can be challenged long and hard. Every “I” must be in place, every “T” must be crossed by the prosecution. You information and your process must be perfect - the defendants like Comey, Brennan, McCabe et. al. will have a Dream Team of lawyers that will make OJ’s defense look like a cheap plastic sand box.

Remember this and remember the goal is not to bring charges and see these guys walk on a technicality - that will exonerate them and the press if that happens. The goal must be conviction. And conviction is hard to achieve - beyond a reasonable doubt - and your process must be absolutely perfect and your evidence iron-clad and the trial must be immune from the perversion of extreme publicity. It has to be perfect, or they will get off.

Remember that when you get impatient. This is going to go into the judicial system, it’s not (at first anyway) going to be fought out in city streets.


25 posted on 05/23/2019 9:57:41 AM PDT by Scott from the Left Coast (You may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you...)
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