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FBI lied: Contrary to testimony, they knew the Steele dossier was fake BEFORE using it to get FISA
noqreport.com ^ | May 9, 2019 | By Carl Durrek

Posted on 05/10/2019 7:01:54 AM PDT by Red Badger

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To: Red Badger
The only thing I would add to your fine summary is the DeepState's hope/belief that President Trump would lash out and the DS could claim obstruction as the basis for impeachment. He held his fire. Now, it is Trump's turn to apply the heat.

It was all known from the beginning. This was the infamous ‘Insurance Policy’ Strok and Page talked about.

Nellie Ohr, [RUSSIAN SPECIALIST for Fusion GPS and former CIA], wife of FBI Bruce Ohr, wrote the dossier, gave one copy to Steele [Brit MI6 CIA associate], one to hubby and they disseminated it ALL OVER DC, knowing it would get back to them eventually so they could proclaim it ‘legit’ to the FISA court.

When McCain got his copy, he ran with it straight to the FBI, like a fool, a gave it to them as ‘evidence’, not knowing it came from them in the first place.

All the pieces are coming together.................


61 posted on 05/10/2019 8:21:08 AM PDT by ptsal
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To: ptsal

It was an ‘Obstruction Trap’ but he did not fall for it......................


62 posted on 05/10/2019 8:22:22 AM PDT by Red Badger (We are headed for a Civil War. It won't be nice like the last one....................)
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To: Red Badger

Disband the FBI.

It’s rotten to the core.


63 posted on 05/10/2019 9:15:59 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents_Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Red Badger

Who added to the deep state the most Clinton’s or Obama or is it a tie?.


64 posted on 05/10/2019 9:20:35 AM PDT by Vaduz (women and children to be impacIQ of chimpsted the most.)
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To: Vaduz

It was a joint exercise...................


65 posted on 05/10/2019 9:21:20 AM PDT by Red Badger (We are headed for a Civil War. It won't be nice like the last one....................)
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To: bagster

You forgot the /S tag.


66 posted on 05/10/2019 9:23:33 AM PDT by GoldenPup
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To: Red Badger

Appears so


67 posted on 05/10/2019 9:30:39 AM PDT by Vaduz (women and children to be impacIQ of chimpsted the most.)
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To: unread
That being the case then someone needs to go to jail....

In my 80 years here in the USA, I can't think of a single period where that statement would not be true.

68 posted on 05/10/2019 9:45:20 AM PDT by itsahoot (Welcome to the New USA where Islam is a religion of peace and Christianity is a mental disorder.)
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To: Red Badger

There is a cancer within our gubamint that is consuming our rights, freedoms, liberties and futures.

It is born of a desire to control every facet of our lives.

It knows no party lines and is well funded by its very own intended victims and generous donors from both within and abroad.

It carries a standard that says ‘We can do no wrong.. as long as you ignore us’.

If you call them out, they will defame and seek to destroy you. They have no shame.


69 posted on 05/10/2019 9:51:16 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Monthly Donors Rock!!!)
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To: GoldenPup
I don't use /s tags.

If people are too stupit to get it, that's their deal.


70 posted on 05/10/2019 9:52:07 AM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: Red Badger

Comey = Dirty Cop, Hillary lackey, anti-Trump fanatic.


71 posted on 05/10/2019 9:53:32 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: NormsRevenge

It is component of every bureaucracy ever created...................


72 posted on 05/10/2019 9:58:19 AM PDT by Red Badger (We are headed for a Civil War. It won't be nice like the last one....................)
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To: Steven Tyler

“Have to disagree.

Bureacrats routinely go rougue and ignore their elected bosses.

Their elected bosses are clueless. They rely on the permanent staff.”

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If there is one thing that pisses of the boss its a subordinate/underling doing something stupid, illegal, or contrary to policy that puts said boss in a bad light or in a difficult situation. Nobody (boss or not) welcomes career threatening events. In my experience (which is apparently a lot different than yours) senior managers may be a little clueless at times (on that point we agree) but you will definitely get their immediate attention if you screw up to the point where they might get called on the carpet to explain why something went terribly wrong and embarrassed the entire organization.

I don’t know what agencies you worked in but career federal bureaucrats are, in general, people who like the job security and benefits of their positions (sinecures). They are not motivated or incentivized to put their bosses careers in jeopardy. Its much safer for them to play by the rules and get approvals, especially for anything that poses the least bit of risk. These people are not risk takers that go rogue without writing memos, attending briefings, and getting approvals (even if some of those things are done sub-rosa).

If there’s one thing most bureaucrats understand (and fear) its the concept of risk. From their viewpoint they are comforted by having their secure jobs and have too much on the line to throw it all away by ignoring their bosses.


73 posted on 05/10/2019 10:37:19 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: NormsRevenge

Most agencies take on a life of their own. They inevitably dedicate themselves to empire building, expanding their role, increasing staff and devising an unending list of programs (often referred to as “investments”) they want to pursue. The agency becomes an organism to be fed, nourished and protected. And then the desire for raw power and control creeps into it.

It is an insidious progression that always leads to abuses and corruption. Right now there are four pretty obvious examples: FBI, DOJ, State Department, and the IRS. All have engaged partisan politics to preserve their own interests.


74 posted on 05/10/2019 10:56:54 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: Starboard

Sorry, my experience in the Public sector is different.
Maybe you worked at a different (municipal/State/Federal) level.

To wit:
Two elected officials task their bureaucrats to draw up an implementation plan for their joint initiative.
Bureaucrats apply their personal bias and/or union bias to draw up a list of reasons why the initiative is doomed to fail and they will loose the next election.

Bureaucrats cannot be terminated.
Politicians rely on bureaucrats technical and historic knowledge

I wish Government was different!


75 posted on 05/12/2019 8:48:55 AM PDT by Steven Tyler
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Politicians rely on bureaucrats technical and historic knowledge

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I worked in/for some agencies whose senior managers trusted contractors more than they did their own career bureaucrats. They were smart enough to know the bureaucrats had deep seated, self-interested biases and were only interested in protecting themselves, building empires and advancing their careers. Contractors have biases as well, but theirs are usually financial in nature so they’re easier to figure out.

Never trust a bureaucrat. LOL


76 posted on 05/12/2019 9:47:40 AM PDT by Starboard
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