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Two injured after Boeing 737 skids off Jacksonville runway into water
WBRZ 2 ^ | May 3, 2019 | WBRZ Staff

Posted on 05/03/2019 8:46:12 PM PDT by PA Engineer

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21 posted on 05/04/2019 8:58:12 AM PDT by wastedyears (The left would kill every single one of us and our families if they knew they could get away with it)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Please. This is not a 737 issue.


22 posted on 05/04/2019 9:15:08 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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23 posted on 05/04/2019 10:29:24 AM PDT by EveningStar (I am a Non-Cultist Trump Supporter.)
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Landed long and fast (IMHO)


24 posted on 05/04/2019 10:56:20 AM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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A 9000’ runway is enough for the B-737 unless you are not paying attention.


25 posted on 05/04/2019 11:07:23 AM PDT by aviator (Armored Pest Control)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

Check NTSB Reporter for that date.


26 posted on 05/04/2019 11:17:52 AM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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To: SkyDancer

Landed long and fast (IMHO)\

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Don’t know about fast but it was a little bit long.......


27 posted on 05/04/2019 11:18:00 AM PDT by deport
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Also related

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3746781/posts


28 posted on 05/04/2019 11:21:08 AM PDT by deport
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To: deport

Read some more posts and it seems some wx factor like heavy rain/ micro-burst might have played a factor.


29 posted on 05/04/2019 11:21:45 AM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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To: SkyDancer

Yep that is mentioned in one of the articles I read that was posted on FR.

They’ll eventually get the details all pulled together. There should be
radar info regarding the weather at that moment I’m hoping. Thankfully
there weren’t any deaths or serious injuries that I’m aware of.


30 posted on 05/04/2019 11:25:28 AM PDT by deport
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To: PA Engineer

Contracted airline should have contract canceled. Air conditioning was out before departure, still flew. What other issues?


31 posted on 05/04/2019 11:39:29 AM PDT by Reno89519 (No Amnesty! No Catch-and-Release! Just Say No to All Illegal Aliens! Arrest & Deport!)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

This is a problem with poorly maintained plane, probably distracted crew. Flight without A/C will have impact. What else was wrong with plane and crew. This is government contract to fly service members and facilities. It should be top condition and crew. Obviously not. Shameful.


32 posted on 05/04/2019 11:41:55 AM PDT by Reno89519 (No Amnesty! No Catch-and-Release! Just Say No to All Illegal Aliens! Arrest & Deport!)
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To: Reno89519

Air conditioning was out? Where did you see that?


33 posted on 05/04/2019 2:28:56 PM PDT by 6AL-4V
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To: 6AL-4V

Several other news reports say it was already a flight from hell.


34 posted on 05/04/2019 2:32:00 PM PDT by Reno89519 (No Amnesty! No Catch-and-Release! Just Say No to All Illegal Aliens! Arrest & Deport!)
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To: Reno89519

Did they say the air conditioning was out?


35 posted on 05/04/2019 2:33:22 PM PDT by 6AL-4V
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To: 6AL-4V

Yes. I am on my iPhone now, don’t recall where read the report. It was linked off of Drudgereport last night I believe. Maybe vis UK Sun?


36 posted on 05/04/2019 2:52:45 PM PDT by Reno89519 (No Amnesty! No Catch-and-Release! Just Say No to All Illegal Aliens! Arrest & Deport!)
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To: Reno89519

That’s interesting. The air conditioning system consists of two packs. The packs provide conditioned air, temperature controlled from the cockpit. The pack system also pressurizes the aircraft. Both packs are used in flight and use pressurized air, called bleed air, supplied from the engines. If one pack is INOP, there aircraft is limited to FL 250, with both INOP, limited to 10k foot altitude. It would be very unusual for an aircraft to be dispatched with both packs INOP, and would be considered a ferry flight with no passengers onboard. So just guessing here, maybe one pack was INOP and they were restricted to a lower altitude. Flighttracker showed the flight’s max altitude was about 15k feet, so maybe it did fly with one pack INOP.


37 posted on 05/04/2019 3:11:02 PM PDT by 6AL-4V
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To: 6AL-4V
Here are several articles discussing four hour delay and broken air conditioning.
38 posted on 05/04/2019 5:16:10 PM PDT by Reno89519 (No Amnesty! No Catch-and-Release! Just Say No to All Illegal Aliens! Arrest & Deport!)
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To: deport

I listened to the archived ATC radio traffic before the public site blocked it. Sounded like the pilot on the radio was not confident about what to do with the fact that the weather was very bad changed his mind about using runway 28 and at the “suggestion” of JAX Center air traffic controller said “sure” let’s go for it or give it a shot or something to that effect. Looking at the runway data//. runway 10 has a significant displaced threshold which makes the runway even shorter than it already is much shorter than normal runways at commercial airports. Also given the weight of the aircraft and the fact that the runway is wet from the storm etc etc. The braking distance is seriously increased. So just from an analytics standpoint the pilot should never have attempted the approach in my personal opinion.


39 posted on 05/04/2019 6:14:52 PM PDT by FRinCanada2 (New FReeper from Toronto Canada)
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To: FRinCanada2

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/BSK293/history/20190503/2319Z/MUGM/KNIP


40 posted on 05/04/2019 6:17:10 PM PDT by FRinCanada2 (New FReeper from Toronto Canada)
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