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To: Bull Snipe
It's important to make sure everyone knows who was making the money, and who was about to lose it.

This clarifies the motives for why people launched a war.

91 posted on 05/03/2019 10:28:52 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp; Bull Snipe; rockrr; x; DoodleDawg
DiogenesLamp: "It's important to make sure everyone knows who was making the money, and who was about to lose it.
This clarifies the motives for why people launched a war."

Right, for example, these people:

Clearly, the economics of slavery was first & foremost on Mississippi's mind in January 1861.
But what about Northerners, say, Doughfaced Democrat President Buchanan? Former Democrat President Buchanan was motivated by Fort Sumter, regardless of economics or slavery.
What about Deep South slaveholding planters? Not "all about" slavery?
What about the Confederate leadership? Not "all about" slavery or economics, but why start war at Fort Sumter?
And what about President Lincoln? Not slaves, not economics, but combinations too powerful".
What about those "Northeastern power brokers" and their "money flows from Europe"? Not about slavery, not about economics, but rather about Confederates' "virtually declared war" against the United States."
And what did Northern commercial interests say? So how was slavery just "pretext", even though protecting slavery was the only possible motivation for the vast majority of Confederates?
No, slavery was the real reason for all but possibly the top 1% of 1% of Southern leaders.
That 1% may have hoped to leverage slavery to increase their own commercial & political powers, but the vast majority of Southerners didn't care about commerce or manufacturing, for example: Not so much about either slavery or "money flows from Europe" in early 1861.
And how did Jefferson Davis feel about all this? Well before the Battle of Fort Sumter, Davis didn't care if he started war, because that was "overbalanced by other considerations", namely, the need for war to trigger Virginia, North Carolina, Tennessee, Arkansas & other Border States to flip from Union to Confederacy.

So... for Davis, not so much about slavery.
Not so much about economics or "money flows from Europe".
Much more about how best to destroy the United States by getting more & more states to join his Confederacy.
And that project DiogenesLamp well acknowledges & supports, though considers of lesser importance than all-powerful "money flows from Europe".
You see, to a trained Marxist, economic self interest defeats mere morals & politics, every single time.

301 posted on 05/04/2019 8:39:34 AM PDT by BroJoeK ((a little historical perspective...))
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