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To: BroJoeK
Team Cuda to FLT-bird: "You are right, as far as you go – about halfway through Rhett’s address. If you read the second half of Rhett’s address, you find it talks almost exclusively about slavery, and not taxes or tariffs " FLT-bird: "I agree it was an issue. I agree it was an important issue. I just do not agree that it was THE issue....at least not for most." Judging by the seven "Reasons for Secession" documents before Fort Sumter slavery was THE issue for some and an important issue for all. In every such document slavery is discussed at greater length than any other reason. And even for those who claim slavery was just "pretext", the reason given is quite telling: "Slavery is not the cause of the rebellion .... Slavery is the pretext on which the leaders of the rebellion rely, 'to fire the Southern Heart' and through which the greatest degree of unanimity can be produced.... Mr. Calhoun, after finding that the South could not be brought into sufficient unanimity by a clamor about the tariff, selected slavery as the better subject for agitation." North American Review (Boston October 1862) This (alleged) quote is often posted by Lost Causers like FLT-bird to "prove" their point that it was all about "money, money, money". But the quote actually proves something quite different -- it proves that average Southerners would not reject their own country only for "money, money, money", but rather they needed something much more important to their "way of life", namely slavery.

Nope. Completely wrong as usual. You have nothing to contribute except an endless cycle of "nuh-uh" type posts.

602 posted on 05/07/2019 4:30:20 PM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: FLT-bird; Team Cuda; x
FLT-bird: "Completely wrong as usual.
You have nothing to contribute except an endless cycle of "nuh-uh" type posts."

So, you have nothing to contribute except a long list of lies, some of it concocted by the original Lost Causers, much of it of more recent manufacture.

In this particular case we are discussing Rhett's December 1860 Address to Slaveholding States, which you claim is all about taxes.
True enough, Rhett did mention taxes.
But he directed even more attention to slavery, for example, these words:

Clearly the issue of slavery to Rhett is vastly more existential than whether tariffs should be 15% or 20%.
But our Lost Causers adamantly refuse to see even the words of their own Confederate ancestors if such words contradict Lost Cause fantasies.
701 posted on 05/09/2019 9:53:47 AM PDT by BroJoeK ((a little historical perspective...))
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