[FLT-bird]

We are in the middle of a culture war in the US. The socialists have pitted each culture against the other. It’s all they talk about , think about, report on. It fills their heads 24 hours a day. They tear down monuments , they vandalize them, they even desecrate sacred grave sites. They seek Chaos. Up to this point the Confederate things have been the target, but that’s changing. They are coming after our founding fathers now. They use PC and victimhood to get the different traditional American cultures fighting one another. America is a land of many cultures that combine for an American culture. The American wAy is for each to respect the other, and when the crap hits the fan we fight together. They want to prevent that by making us hate each other. The South as in 1861 just asks to be left alone. Respect our culture and our forefathers. Leave our symbols and monuments alone. That’s all we ask. They know that. They know we stand in their way to a Godless, Secular, Socialist Government for the elite. But they are mistaken if they think we will not fight for what we think they can not take from us. Our Rights are given by God not government. For our Individual liberty we will and always fight !

Oh I know. There's not even any point in talking to hardcore Leftists. Its obvious what their endgame is. What simply amazes me is how they get people who otherwise consider themselves to be Conservatives to go along with their PC Revisionist crap so long as the target is Southerners.....the ideological allies of Conservatives (not Neocons but actual Conservatives) in America today.

We have warned them for years and years that the South's intellectual legacy is not limited to the mid 19th century. It goes right to the very heart of the founding of the Republic. For all their self congratulation, it was not New Englanders who provided the overwhelming majority of the intellectual force behind the Declaration of Independence or the US Constitution. It was Dixie. The Constitution is absolutely a product of the Southern mind. Had it been written by New Englanders it would have had a much more centralized and expansive federal government and no provisions for individual liberty. We'd be in exactly the same mess western Europe is in today with no right to bear arms and no absolute freedom of speech such that not just big Tech would ban "hate speech" but the government itself would make it a crime. They would of course come to define "hate speech" as any disagreement with the Establishment - just as we increasingly see in Western Europe today.

Far from being unAmerican as New Englanders would have it, Southerners represent the essence of what it is to be an American. It is New England that is alien from the majority of America. It is they who would fit much more comfortably in Western Europe than on this side of the pond - not the South.

[BroJoeK]

FLT-bird: "We have warned them for years and years that the South's intellectual legacy is not limited to the mid 19th century.
It goes right to the very heart of the founding of the Republic.
For all their self congratulation, it was not New Englanders who provided the overwhelming majority of the intellectual force behind the Declaration of Independence or the US Constitution.
It was Dixie.
The Constitution is absolutely a product of the Southern mind."

Not just the "Southern mind".
The actual writers of the Constitution's drafts & final version did include Rutledge from SC, Randolph & Madison from Virginia, but also, Wilson from PA, Hamilton from NY, Ellsworth & Johnson from Connecticut, Gorham & King from Massachusetts and holding pen to paper, sometimes called "the rake who wrote the Constitution", Pennsylvania's Gouverneur Morris (Morris was then 35, single and we might say, a man about town. He, like Hamilton, was also closely allied to George Washington's views).

George Washington was President of the 1787 Constitution Convention and James Madison is rightly credited as "Father of the Constitution", for his pivotal roles.
Other Southerners contributed importantly to the Constitution as well, notably, the 3/5 rule & Fugitive Slave provision.
So Southerners were indeed important, though there were plenty of others who also contributed.

Regardless, the real story here is not how great Southerners were in 1787, but how far they fell by 1860.

FLT-bird: "Had it been written by New Englanders it would have had a much more centralized and expansive federal government and no provisions for individual liberty."

Sure, the South had it's fair share of anti-Federalists, but so did so did New York, Rhode Island, Massachusetts & New Jersey.
All objected because they thought the Constitution made Federal government too powerful.