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To: jazusamo

The States are not changing the requirements to BE President.

They are changing the methods by which their State Legislatures appoint their Electors for President and Vice President.

It is perfectly legal and perfectly Constitutional.

It is also extremely unwise. The last time this happened on this scale was 1860, and we know how that turned out.


22 posted on 04/30/2019 5:29:53 PM PDT by Jim Noble (1)
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To: Jim Noble

Thanks...I’m no authority on law or the Constitution but you make an excellent point and I agree.


29 posted on 04/30/2019 5:33:56 PM PDT by jazusamo (Have You Donated to Keep Free Republic Up and Running?)
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To: Jim Noble

We have already been through this. It’s not legal, and it’s not Constitutional. If this is constitutional, then so is a state law that prohibits its electors from casting electoral votes for women or black people.


34 posted on 04/30/2019 5:36:51 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Out on the road today I saw a Deadhead sticker on a Cadillac.")
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To: Jim Noble

“They are changing the methods by which their State Legislatures appoint their Electors for President and Vice President.

It is perfectly legal and perfectly Constitutional.”

I believe you are mistaken as you are mixing up TWO separate initiatives. The first is choosing electors based off of popular vote which may be constitutional other than the fact that it is entering into a “compact” which would be unconstitutional. This is in a grey area and would likely end up in SCOTUS.

This article concerns the out and out elimination of Trump from the ballot which is blatantly unconstitutional as they have no authority to deny any candidate for Federal office that has met Federal criteria to be included.


41 posted on 04/30/2019 5:42:03 PM PDT by traderrob6
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To: Jim Noble

I disagree. Unlike the NPV which is stupid but within the powers given to states in the Constitution, I don’t see how these efforts would be deemed Constitutional.

Seems to be almost like a bill of attendee, or adding a requirement that has nothing to do with getting votes. In fact, it seems to be an effort to deny votes.


54 posted on 04/30/2019 5:58:16 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Jim Noble

“It is perfectly legal and perfectly Constitutional.”

Not so. Technically Trump is not even on the state’s ballot, it’s the slate of electors committed to him that’s really on the ballot. So a vote for his name is really a vote for those slate of electors. Therefore, removing Trump’s name is the same as removing an entire slate of electors, disenfranchising voters in the State who vote for them. So any laws specifying standards for appearing on the ballot would have to pertain to specific electors, not Trump. In addition, section 2 of the 14th amendment includes citizens in voting for electors, and prohibits the voters in a state from having their votes for electors disenfranchised and nullified. Since Trump meets all the constitution standards that qualify him to run for President, any law by the legislator that interferes with the electors right to vote for him is unconstitutional, and also violates the 14th amendment by attempting to impede the electors from their free choice of voting in accordance to the will of the people of that state who voted for them. So having a law that mandates the release of tax returns is essentially separating voters from their electors.


81 posted on 04/30/2019 6:50:27 PM PDT by ScottfromNJ
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To: Jim Noble

“They are changing the methods by which their State Legislatures appoint their Electors for President and Vice President.”

nonsense. the names of the candidates appear on the ballots, not the names of the electors, and these state laws are aimed at keeping Trump’s name off of the ballot ...


97 posted on 04/30/2019 8:51:21 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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