Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Why Trump Is Bitter The Firefighters Endorsed Joe Biden
Townhall.com ^ | April 30, 2019 | Salena Zito

Posted on 04/30/2019 2:28:16 AM PDT by Kaslin

PITTSBURGH -- Joe Biden's decision to kick off his presidential campaign in Western Pennsylvania Monday shows that he is not just in a battle for the soul of the country; he is in a battle for the soul of his party.s

That battle begins and ends with long primary contests that many Democratic experts and officials believe will be decided exactly one year from now, on Pennsylvania's April 29 primary voting day.

"This nominating process certainly has all of the ingredients to go long, and the Democratic voters in this state hold the key to help defining our party as being the party of the working class," said Harold Schaitberger, the general president of the International Association of Fire Fighters, in an interview with The New York Post.

The IAFF, which represents more than 316,000 full-time firefighters and paramedics, announced its endorsement of Biden in Pittsburgh, something Schaitberger said is one of the earliest endorsements it's ever done, and one it did not give Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump in the 2016 election.

"That marked the first time we've ever not endorsed in a presidential election," he said.

Schaitberger bluntly admits Clinton just did not connect with labor, but Biden does.

"We're also responsible to make sure that, quite frankly, the nominee isn't a nominee that is gonna take the party off the left cliff," he said. "It seems that too many candidates have high-minded, aspirational ideals, but it's not a recipe for winning and succeeding. And it doesn't really reflect in many ways the heart and soul of workers, middle-class workers."

If you think the IAFF's influence in the Democratic primary process is not of significance, a moment in the 2004 election cycle is often overlooked, when former Vermont Gov. Howard Dean had captured the imagination and speculation among the press and pundits.

"As you know, Howard Dean was gonna be the nominee. It was that simple -- at least, that is what everyone said, until all of a sudden, we snuck up and literally carried John through Iowa and through New Hampshire," Schaitberger said of John Kerry. "And then he was off and running in the rest of the world."

The decision to back Biden has already annoyed President Trump, who tweeted Monday, "The Dues Sucking firefighters leadership will always support Democrats, even though the membership wants me. Some things never change!"

Often, where the firefighters go, so do other union workers.

Harold McDonald, a Democratic committee man from Penn Hills, Pennsylvania, and retired council representative for the Carpenters Union, is convinced this race is going long: "This is truly the battle for the soul of our party. You have pundits and reporters on the national news saying our party is one thing, and then you have the rank and file voters here saying that's not what we are voting on at all."

McDonald, who is African American, said voters here worry about health care and education. "That is what is important to me as well," he said. "That is why I am supporting Biden already."

The same goes for 22-year-old Hannah O'Toole, who sang the national anthem at the Workers Memorial Day celebration in Pittsburgh ahead of Biden's visit along with her father, 60-year-old Marty O'Toole, who is the business manager for Plumbers Local 27.

"Joe Biden's been a big part of the way we think and want to go and he has always been a front runner for us here in Pennsylvania," said Marty O'Toole, who is personally supporting the former vice president.

Hannah O'Toole is also leaning toward Biden. "I've liked him since Obama," she said.

Darrin Kelly, president of the powerful local labor council here in Western Pennsylvania and a city firefighter, said the Party has drifted too far left. And this is the state where, not just in the general but mostly in the primary, that will be decided.

"Today is an important reminder of what is important to voters in Pennsylvania in a Democratic primary and we expect the Democratic Party to truly start listening to what our message is, stop polarizing us and start welcoming us back, we want FDR style politics," Kelly said. "If our strength is truly our diversity then the party has to start listening to the working class, they have to welcome us back and our voice will be heard in the primary in this state and that the message we want about job creation, health care and pension security is what will bring us out in a general."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: 2020demprimary; 2020endorsements; biden; pennsylvania; presidenttrump; trump2020; unions; unionvote; zito
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-78 next last
To: DainBramage

“All union money goes dem.”

A men to that. From personal experience, any union, just like the media, is just another extension of the rat party. What ever union money does not get raked into union boss pockets goes to the dems.


21 posted on 04/30/2019 3:39:40 AM PDT by redfreedom
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: Kaslin

“Schaitberger bluntly admits Clinton just did not connect with labor, but Biden does.”

Why?! Because he’s a dumb as a hammer?


22 posted on 04/30/2019 3:42:10 AM PDT by Lee'sGhost ("Just look at the flowers, Lizzie. Just look at the flowers.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Kaslin

Biden sounded like such a buffoon trying to convince attendees at his rally that the economy was really not doing well.

“The stock market is booming but you can’t feel it.”

In one poll, 70% of voters said they were in financially better shape than they were one year ago.

Convincing voters that something they know to be true is not is going to be tough sledding for joe. He’s already slurring speech after a few days.


23 posted on 04/30/2019 3:42:29 AM PDT by IamConservative (I was nervous like the third chimp in line for the Ark after rain had started falling.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Kaslin

“Trump is bitter”. Lolololol *takes a breath* lolololol

So the corporate union HEADS are for Biden. Big deal. S**tberger always comes out for Dems. The rank and file are firmly in Trump camp. I don’t think PDJT cares about who a union endorses. He has the everyday folks. That’s who really matters to him.


24 posted on 04/30/2019 3:42:36 AM PDT by Maskot (Put every dem/lib in. ...like yesterday!!!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Libloather

Trump should hold a rally in DC with firefighters and cops and emts.


25 posted on 04/30/2019 3:50:13 AM PDT by kenmcg (tHE WHOLE)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Kaslin
he is in a battle for the soul of his party

That battle was lost years ago.

26 posted on 04/30/2019 3:50:25 AM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Every nation gets the government it deserves." -Joseph de Maistre)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Kaslin

“Joe Biden’s been a big part of the way we think...”

So they don’t think at all.


27 posted on 04/30/2019 3:51:21 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (As long as Hillary walks free, equal justice under the law will never exist in the USA)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Kaslin

Maybe the top echelon endorsed Biden, but I figure the rank and file will ignore that. It’s been a long time since the union members took voting orders from their leadership. They did for JFK, but now not so much.


28 posted on 04/30/2019 3:55:26 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Kaslin

Irrelevant.

Biden will not win the nomination.

Democrats do not want a union supporter (those are dirty jobs)

Democrats want a single-payer, socialist who is not white, not male and half of Biden’s age.


29 posted on 04/30/2019 3:58:32 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (The Democratic Party is now a hate-mob)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Kaslin

Most union leaders supported hildabutchbitch, afl-cio, seiu, teachers, etc. BUT, TRUMP WON.


30 posted on 04/30/2019 3:59:05 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Nuke all mooselimb terrorists, today.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Kaslin

Didn’t most unions endorse Clinton in 2016, only have most of the rank and file vote Trump?


31 posted on 04/30/2019 4:04:32 AM PDT by euram (is)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: abb
Is there any way a union can root out their leadership?

I was in HR all my life at my company's manufacturing plant that was UAW and the answer is no.

It starts at the shop level with the Stewards then the Committeemen then the Local President then over to Solidarity House and up. At the plant level it's local elections then to get to Solidarity House it becomes political and who you know.

Last year there was a major scandal with the UAW's top bargaining committee and Chrysler with a couple UAW members taking kickbacks from Chrysler and spending enormous amounts of money on junkets.

The UAW gal that was convicted used to work in the shop at my plant and only got to Solidarity because of who she knows.

She was never the brightest bulb in the box but yet not only got to Solidarity but became a member of their chief bargaining committee.........

32 posted on 04/30/2019 4:04:58 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (uizzzp)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: Kaslin

I was IBEW for 38 years. Just recently at a union meeting, we were told we were losing jobs due to our coal fired plants shutting down. I pointedly remarked that the IBEW had endorsed Obama. The dumbazzes couldn’t make the connection!


33 posted on 04/30/2019 4:07:33 AM PDT by mozarky2 (Ya never stand so tall as when ya stoop to stomp a statist...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: abb
Is there any way a union can root out their leadership? I’ve never been in a union, and not familiar with the inner workings.

There was a union leader in the coal miners back in the 60s that tried to run against the corrupt bosses, and the union crooks {W. A. tony Boyle} bought some hit men, had him and his wife and his daughter murdered. His sons were away at college.

Look up Jock Yablonski, miners union, 1969.

34 posted on 04/30/2019 4:08:11 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Nuke all mooselimb terrorists, today.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: Kaslin
It's very telling that Biden made this appearance with a public sector union instead of the UAW or a similar organization. Public sector unions are the only ones the Democrats haven't already worked to destroy when they made their Faustian bargain in the 1990s to adopt a full-bore globalist agenda.

Nobody with half a brain could ever believe that Joe Biden is better than Donald Trump for Americans who don't work for government.

35 posted on 04/30/2019 4:09:40 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Out on the road today I saw a Deadhead sticker on a Cadillac.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Libloather
It probably hit around the time this perp endorsed Algore. I’m out.

That's a good reason to dislike someone. I needed more context than just his last name. Haha.

36 posted on 04/30/2019 4:10:51 AM PDT by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: USS Alaska

I remember that name.


37 posted on 04/30/2019 4:11:33 AM PDT by abb ("News reporting is too important to be left to the journalists." Walter Abbott (1950 -))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 34 | View Replies]

To: Libloather

It’s a classic troll. Separate the leadership from the rank and file and be the firefighters’ voice where they are not able to speak anymore as a body.

I think they vote Trump as well.


38 posted on 04/30/2019 4:14:47 AM PDT by steveyp
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Hot Tabasco

The unions are as crooked as the Demoncrats.


39 posted on 04/30/2019 4:15:09 AM PDT by cp124 (I didnÂ’t leave America, it left me.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 32 | View Replies]

To: Kaslin

Schaitberger bluntly admits Clinton just did not connect with labor, but Biden does.

Yeah. Biden connects with everyone. Particularly little girls and women.


40 posted on 04/30/2019 4:16:18 AM PDT by Pravious
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-78 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson