[Alberta's Child]

Their hearts are in the right place, but their understanding of Christianity is childish. The murderers cannot be forgiven in any human terms in an attack like this ... BECAUSE THE VICTIMS AREN'T HERE TO FORGIVE THEM.

It is the height of hubris -- and preposterous -- to believe you can forgive someone for a crime against someone else.

[metmom]

Their hearts are in the right place, but their understanding of Christianity is childish. The murderers cannot be forgiven in any human terms in an attack like this ... BECAUSE THE VICTIMS AREN'T HERE TO FORGIVE THEM. It is the height of hubris -- and preposterous -- to believe you can forgive someone for a crime against someone else.

My understanding of forgiveness is that it has to be done by the injured party to the person who sinned against them.

I don't recall seeing anywhere in Scripture that one forgives evil done against someone else.

We do not have the power to do that. Only God can do that.

[metmom]

Their hearts are in the right place, but their understanding of Christianity is childish. The murderers cannot be forgiven in any human terms in an attack like this ... BECAUSE THE VICTIMS AREN'T HERE TO FORGIVE THEM. It is the height of hubris -- and preposterous -- to believe you can forgive someone for a crime against someone else.

Nevertheless, I can see it having the potential to drive the muzzies crazy.

How effective can terror attacks be when people refuse to accept in in the manner in which it is meant?

It puts the Christians beyond the reach of the muzzies. Muslim's whole culture is based on continual, generational retaliation for wrongs done and grudges held in perpetuity.

When the Christians refuse to play by the muzzies rules and refuse to take the offense and retaliate, then it takes away any reason they have for their actions.

The mileage bullies get is out of the reaction of the victim. If you don't give them what they want, it's very disarming.

[Mrs. Don-o]

It appears that this pastor has Jesus' teachings and example to support him. I think, in this case, you do not.

This make no sense of course, humanly speaking. The fact that Jesus commands us to love and forgive enemies is not only humanly impossible to do, without Divine power, it's humanly impossible to even "want" to do it.

Perhaps even more than the Resurrection, this constitutes, to me, proof that Jesus was (and is) God.