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To: robowombat

No, you touch on a valid point regarding the Wahhabi sect. It is true that this element is stridently anti-Western.

The King and his inner circle do what I consider a reasoned job of keeping the Wahhabists in check. We don’t see pronounced continuing problems out of that group. I would even moderate that comment a bit.

There are competing interests in Saudi Arabia. I think it could be a lot worse if we lost close relations with the leadership, and other more radical elements were able to topple the king and take over.

This would be acutely worse if Russia or China were to become the power the Saudis grew closer to.

IMO < the Saudi Kingdom remains reasonably close to the U. S. and could certainly be a lot worse for us, if we weren’t careful.


55 posted on 04/28/2019 3:28:01 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: DoughtyOne

I pretty much agree with what you say. But the grovelling and ass kissing that Bush and his Houston clique engaged in starting with ‘Religion of Peace’ telegraphed to many Americans that the lives and safety of average Americans were secondary or even tertiary to the wealth accumulation of a parasitic insider clique of American lawyers, oil company executives and lobbyists.


57 posted on 04/28/2019 3:34:13 PM PDT by robowombat (Orthodox)
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To: DoughtyOne

Toss sayyid qutb in Egypt into the mix and we have: Sayyid Qutb Profile and Biography Father of Modern Islamic Extremism.

While barely known in the United States, Sayyid Qutb is the one man who could be considered the ideological grandfather of Osama bin Laden and the other extremists who surround him.

Although Sayyid Qutb started out as a literary critic, he became radicalized on a trip to the United States. Qutb traveled through America from 1948 to 1950, and was shocked at the moral and spiritual degeneracy he observed, stating that “No one is more distant than the Americans from spirituality and piety.” This is something that would probably surprise Christian fundamentalists, who look upon this time quite fondly.

Not even American churches escaped his angry notice, and in his narratives he relates this incident:

Every young man took the hand of a young woman. And these were the young men and women who had just been singing their hymns! Red and blue lights, with only a few white lamps, illuminated the dance floor. The room became a confusion of feet and legs: arms twisted around hips; lips met lips; chests pressed together.

Linky thing:

https://www.learnreligions.com/sayyid-qutb-modern-islamic-extremism-250229


60 posted on 04/28/2019 3:44:31 PM PDT by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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