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BIG! – NSA Recommends Dropping Phone Surveillance Program….
CTH ^ | April 24, 2019 | sundance

Posted on 04/25/2019 11:04:57 AM PDT by xzins

(WASHINGTON DC) The National Security Agency has recommended that the White House abandon a U.S. surveillance program that collects information about Americans’ phone calls and text messages, saying the logistical and legal burdens of keeping it outweigh its intelligence benefits, according to people familiar with the matter.

The recommendation against seeking the renewal of the once-secret spying program amounts to an about-face by the agency, which had long argued in public and to congressional overseers that the program was vital to the task of finding and disrupting terrorism plots against the U.S.

The latest view is rooted in a growing belief among senior intelligence officials that the spying program provides limited value to national security and has become a logistical headache.

Frustrations about legal-compliance issues forced the NSA to halt use of the program earlier this year, the people said. Its legal authority will expire in December unless Congress reauthorizes it. (read more)

…”It is up to the White House, not the NSA, to decide whether to push for legislation to renew the phone-records program. The White House hasn’t yet reached a policy decision about the surveillance program, according to the people familiar with the matter. The White House National Security Council and the NSA declined to comment.”… […] In remarks over the past month, Gen. Paul Nakasone, the director of the NSA and chief of U.S. Cyber Command, has declined to offer specifics about the status of conversations about the metadata program, but he has acknowledged officials are reviewing whether it is necessary.

“It’s a collaborative process, and the administration will make the decision,” Mr. Nakasone said this month at a Marshall Forum event in Washington. “We are taking a look at it, what is the value of it, what are we able to get from it…I think the question becomes, is this a tool that we continue to need to have for our nation’s security?” (link)

May God continue to bless Admiral Mike Rogers…

Do not go about your day without contemplating the scale of this decision; and more importantly the ideological shift on the freedom continuum. 97% of our nation will have no comprehension of the importance of this story.

One of the hurdles in revealing the scale of the story behind the abused FISA process are the current interests of the intelligence community. Those who benefited from the abuse of the system have used “national security interests” as a shield to avoid revealing the history of Obama-era political surveillance and spying.

However, if the intelligence apparatus says they no longer want/need the surveillance system; that is, the specific aspect used for prior abuse; well, the shield is removed;… and, as a consequence, the history of how the NSA database was abused for political spy operation can then be revealed.


TOPICS: Editorial; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: nsa; phonesurveillance; spying; sundance; surveillance
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To: Dr. Sivana

That’s why the query format was always the logical use of it, and that gives rise to abuse all by itself. All they need is to get ticked off at you.


21 posted on 04/25/2019 11:26:41 AM PDT by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Support our troops by praying fcfor their victory.)
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To: xzins
I’m convinced Hillary’s server was a cute way to release paid for info directly to the Chinese.

BINGO!!! This is how she expects to not be convicted of espionage. She can play dumb and claim she never tranfered anything, “they” hacked it. She was selling US secrets and if we were at war I believe she could face execution just like the Rosenbergs.

22 posted on 04/25/2019 11:26:50 AM PDT by precisionshootist
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To: precisionshootist

Yep. I agree. Treason.


23 posted on 04/25/2019 11:28:54 AM PDT by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Support our troops by praying fcfor their victory.)
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To: xzins

Translation = It’s been moved offshore. Out of reach of jurisdiction of federal courts.


24 posted on 04/25/2019 11:46:44 AM PDT by blackdog
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To: blackdog

That’s a scary thought. Or we’ll just let the other 4 eyes do it.


25 posted on 04/25/2019 11:47:36 AM PDT by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Support our troops by praying fcfor their victory.)
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To: xzins
But if they say it has been dropped...how will anyone know?
26 posted on 04/25/2019 11:57:26 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (A working definition of the new "Elite" would be; "Those who matter to those who think they matter.")
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To: xzins
But if they say it has been dropped...how will anyone know?
27 posted on 04/25/2019 11:57:34 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (A working definition of the new "Elite" would be; "Those who matter to those who think they matter.")
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To: xzins

Our intelligence services are a joke.


28 posted on 04/25/2019 12:24:38 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: MayflowerMadam

Trust the goverment? Ask an Indian.


29 posted on 04/25/2019 12:26:51 PM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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To: xzins

Since it no longer is useful against Trump, why would they want to continue with it?


30 posted on 04/25/2019 12:30:40 PM PDT by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart - I just don't tell anyone.)
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To: xzins

After the 2016 election coup does anyone really take the NSA seriously when they say they are not going to spy on American citizens anymore? These same people who are NEVER punished for their continued screw ups: missed 911, they missed WMD’s in Iraq, they missed the Boston Bombers and their third world behavior in the 2016 election shows that the US government agencies more and more resemble Baghdad Bob whenever they make a grand pronouncement, which is pitiful. The US government at almost every level makes the perpetual lying Joe Isuzu character seem wholesome.

They missed 911, they missed WMD’s in Iraq, they missed the Boston Bombers and their third world behavior in the 2016 election shows that the US government agencies more and more resemble Bagdhad Bob whenever they make a grand pronouncement, which is pitifal.


31 posted on 04/25/2019 12:43:31 PM PDT by sarge83
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To: MayflowerMadam

The meta data still gets collected (by the carrier). NSA no longer has to carry the cost of the infrastructure to hold the data. Instead, they can simply request the data that they need, when they need it.


32 posted on 04/25/2019 12:44:35 PM PDT by taxcontrol (Stupid should hurt - dad's wisdom)
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To: xzins

History teaches that Haman was hanged on the gallows that he had constructed for Mordecai.

Perhaps the NSA thinks it can change the past.

Not enough popcorn.


33 posted on 04/25/2019 12:47:12 PM PDT by Ezekiel (The pun is mightier than the s-word.)
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To: Ezekiel

Thank God for the Bible.

“Wherewithal shall a young man cleanse his way? by taking heed thereto according to thy word.” “ Ps 119:9


34 posted on 04/25/2019 1:54:10 PM PDT by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Support our troops by praying fcfor their victory.)
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To: sarge83

They have a generation and billions invested. But on the other hand, they have been opened to public glare. They have to pretend for a while anyway I imagine.


35 posted on 04/25/2019 1:56:41 PM PDT by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Support our troops by praying fcfor their victory.)
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To: xzins
Isreal is not going to be happy about this.

NSA transferred raw intelligence to Israel, document shows
36 posted on 04/25/2019 2:18:03 PM PDT by Garth Tater (What's mine is mine.)
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To: cgbg; xzins

Government spying on citizens has been going on for years.
MkUltra came from an earlier program, and morphed into the current ones via other intermediate programs.
Congress yelled at the Intel community for it, they “promised” with a wink, nod, and crossed fingers that they wouldn’t do it again.
Henh.


37 posted on 04/25/2019 2:29:14 PM PDT by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same.)
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To: xzins

Unfortunately it would be like our IC to claim they were stopping, while just going deeper underground on the program.


38 posted on 04/25/2019 2:30:45 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: xzins

Liars.
You believe this crap,
Trust me i am 6’4” tall dark and handsome.
That’s some kinda shit...


39 posted on 04/25/2019 2:39:08 PM PDT by Joe Boucher ( Molon Labe' baby, Molon Labe)
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To: xzins

There really is a big humor factor because this is about phone surveillance.

Even though nowadays most people end a phone call by touching a screen, the term is still to “hang up”.

Hanging up... it even involved Haman’s ten sons. It seems like ancient history when we put a dime into a pay phone.

Poor NSA, because when someone “drops a dime” on them...

The party’s over.

Heh, never boring. I’ve turned into quite a history buff, lol.


40 posted on 04/25/2019 2:44:58 PM PDT by Ezekiel (The pun is mightier than the s-word.)
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