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A Simple Plan To Address The 'Student Loan Crisis'
Townhall.com ^ | April 25, 2019 | Derek Hunter

Posted on 04/25/2019 5:41:46 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: z3n

There is also much more massive demand for a college education than there is for college educated workers.

In the past, poor grades kept inadequate students out of college. Now schools hand out A’s and B’s for not much more than mediocre attendance. Everyone thinks they are college material. But when they get there and find there is actually work involved they look for the easiest path forward. Which is usually a major that only requires regurgitating socialist propaganda.

Colleges love these students because they are easily manipulated into borrowing way too much money and hand it over to essentially remain uneducated with a worthless degree.


21 posted on 04/25/2019 6:09:40 AM PDT by hopespringseternal
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To: shelterguy

I went to ITT Tech. back in 83-85. Then it was as decent school that taught what I wanted to learn. Electronic Technology. I knew when I signed up I wasn’t going to walk out and earn a 6 or 7 figure Salary.

My Wife went through the College I started working after after Graduating Tech School. She now works at a fortune 500 Corporate HQ making what I earn.

We both paid less than 10k for our Education that allowed up to enter the Professional world. We have both since then taken other courses needed to allow us opportunities for promotion.

I’ll be damned If I will pay for some punks decision to spend 4-6 years at some Commie reservation learning how to destroy MY Country and get a degree in gender studies or interpretive dance.

I am not saying they shouldn’t have the right to take such classes but part of College is learning that one’s choices have consequences.

Besides that, imagine what this generation will expect if their Post Secondary Education is paid for.... Free Houses, Free Health Care.

What a bunch of tools!


22 posted on 04/25/2019 6:10:17 AM PDT by VRWCarea51 (The Original 1998 Version)
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To: Junk Silver
"Then make student loan debt dischargeable in bankruptcy like other loans are."
You hit the nail on the head. If we made student loan debt dischargeable in bankruptcy we would see a dynamic change in our liberal college campus. Schools would have to dump there go-nowhere degrees because banks would not fund them.
23 posted on 04/25/2019 6:12:07 AM PDT by Xenodamus (The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. -TJ)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

My wife went to college anticipating in majoring in French because she had a bunch of “advanced credit” from all her high school French. Then she learned when she got there that she had so much advance credit (for which she got no REAL credit) that in order to complete that major she would have to begin by taking every 400 level French course they offered. She changed her major.


24 posted on 04/25/2019 6:15:06 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: Kaslin

Setting aside the fact that young adults may or may not be in debt for bad reasons, if the government really wanted to solve this problem they’d fix it at the level where it needs fixing.

1) Get the government out of school loans. Make the only way for loans to be issued come from private banks who will then scrutinize your chosen major, ability to get a job, and the projected salary to see what you can pay off. The lower the salary, the higher the interest rate they can charge. Maybe pass a law to cap the rate at a certain level because it does benefit society to have its populace educated.

2) What this will do is drastically reduce the number of kids being given loans. Or, reduce they amount they can borrow. This will cause a rapid and drastic reduction in college tuition when student rolls start decreasing. Think about it. Colleges know that the government will fund loans, in effect guaranteeing their customer stream. Until that stops, colleges have no incentive to lower their tuition.

3) I see it first hand. My youngest son is very smart. Excellent grades academically, solid SAT scores, football player, boy scout, community service, holds a job... He has had trouble getting into schools that have the program he wants because its so damn competitive. He’s being squeezed out because applications are through the roof.

4) This will fix the problem but it will be painful of course for the colleges. But you tell me - is it reasonable for the In State Tuition of a college my son applied for to be approx. $8,000 per year and the Out of State Tuition to be $32,000? I get that you want to give the in-state kids a break but come on? 4 times as much. It’s not like they have any added costs. It’s pure profit for the school.

I actually think Elizabeth Warren’s idea has some merit. At least she’s only soaking the UBER UBER UBER wealthy in her plan. (in theory) But the lesson is wrong. And it penalizes those that have lived responsibly and saved for school. Or chosen a good major and not 18th Century French Poetry.

In the end, I doubt anything will happen. It’s all just bluster. And that’s probably the saddest part of all.


25 posted on 04/25/2019 6:15:57 AM PDT by TangledUpInBlue
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To: Buckeye McFrog

This kind of thinking is how we got Medicar Part “D” under “W”. OK tactical move but terrible strategery.


26 posted on 04/25/2019 6:16:27 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: hopespringseternal

Makes you wonder how much of this is insiders recognizing that Universities are a bubble popping, and you can avoid or delay thatby publicly subsidizing student financing


27 posted on 04/25/2019 6:16:31 AM PDT by z3n
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To: Kaslin

IF our Congress critters were really interested in doing anything other than buying votes by promising to “forgive” student debt, they could take almost immediate action by reducing or removing interest paid on those loans. The federal government took over student loans under Obama and it regulates the interest rates. That would be a quick debut reduction plan they could to relatively easily, yet for some reason they haven’t thought of that.


28 posted on 04/25/2019 6:16:46 AM PDT by JWNM
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To: trad_anglican

And, in addition, the Yuge salaries of professors. Some back 10 years ago earned nearly $200K and taught 3-5 classes per week. None over summer. Then...guess who they donate to...Democrat ticket nearly 95%!!!

Hello?!!! Article is spot on. Snowflakes would melt if they had to address this question on TV.

GREAT article. I hear parents saying Little Honored One is so in debt with student loans. So, for birthday and Christmas, give them a loan boost payment instead of all the crap from China.


29 posted on 04/25/2019 6:17:31 AM PDT by YouGoTexasGirl
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To: Kaslin
I have sympathy for the people now in debt. When they were very young, they were lied to by just about everybody. Starting with baby boomers who were told by "the greatest generation" that a college degree was essential - the ticket to success! That same propaganda was passed to the Gen-Xers, the Millenials and still now. The colleges encouraged blind borrowing... just keep your grades up and it will all work out with a great job after college. They were lied to by the Academic Industrial Complex. These are the people who should be held accountable for obscene tuitions and building projects and should be the ones paying retributions - not taxpayers.

All that being said, I could never have made the money I did in the computer industry without SOME education but these days that can all be done online. End tax-exempt status for obscene college campuses and their tax-free real-estate empires. Sell off the property and help former students with their obscene loans.

30 posted on 04/25/2019 6:17:46 AM PDT by rhombus10
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To: Kaslin
Forget loans. The best thing we could do for young people everywhere, of every education level, would be to stop ALL immigration for 40 years. That would increase the standard of living of the WORKING citizens, and maybe they would have a chance at the 'good' life.
31 posted on 04/25/2019 6:18:14 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: TangledUpInBlue

In the end you KNOW nothing will be done. Revisit your “premise” about gummint solving problems. It’s painfully obvious this gummint can’t do that.


32 posted on 04/25/2019 6:18:31 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: Uncle Sham

The tuition ‘bomb’ is not connected in anyway to any reality in the actual cost of an education.


33 posted on 04/25/2019 6:20:06 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Well, if we do vacate the college loan debt, the debtor should be required to listen to Dave Ramsey tapes 24/7 for one year.


34 posted on 04/25/2019 6:20:27 AM PDT by Mouton (The media is the enemy of the people.)
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To: YouGoTexasGirl

Ole Liawatha Warren makes 465k a year.


35 posted on 04/25/2019 6:22:26 AM PDT by VRWCarea51 (The Original 1998 Version)
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To: Kaslin

Revoke the degrees after 10 years if they don’t pay. Notify their employers.


36 posted on 04/25/2019 6:24:19 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (All I know is The I read in the papers.)
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To: Kaslin

“It’s also a way for Democrats to advance an idea that is at the core of progressive politics: no personal responsibility.

Abolishing personal responsibility is the primary goal of the democrat party.


37 posted on 04/25/2019 6:32:02 AM PDT by aquila48
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To: Junk Silver

Bingo.

Government loans ARE the problem, they’ll let you go into debt for any degree and there’s no incentive for colleges to keep costs down. There will always be more “help” from government. Making college “free” will only make the situation worse!

I will say something has to change. The ratio of debt to first-job paycheck has become too extreme. You could buy a home for the cost of these degrees. That said, let market forces compete for the best solution - relying on the government is the worst choice.


38 posted on 04/25/2019 6:34:01 AM PDT by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing of poor moral choices among everybody)
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To: Kaslin

My nephew and his wife complain about their student loans all the time. It’s not about them being stretched, though. It’s about them wanting to buy BMWs and a $600,000 house to keep up with their friends who don’t have to repay loans.

Knowing the sickness among many millennials, I wonder how many aren’t really hurting, but just can’t get their instant gratification.


39 posted on 04/25/2019 6:34:14 AM PDT by itzmygun (Elitism + Hatred of Mankind = Today's Liberalism)
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To: shelterguy
I came from a poor family. I worked my way through college and medical school without going into debt. I slept on box springs supported by concrete blocks, ate on a card table, could not afford a magazine or a newspaper, spent as little as possible on food.

I NEVER went into debt.

Going into debt is like taking the canoe out with the tide and coming back against the tide.

I was smart enough to figure that out.

I am not sympathetic to people who go into debt.

I am particularly unsympathetic to those who bask in relative luxury, go into debt, and expect other people to bail them out.

One of the smartest things I ever learned was to say this to myself:

Nobody can or will do it for me. I must do it for myself.

It's my own damn fault--nobody else's.

BTW: In addition to myself, I also put my wife through college, both of my children (each went through three times), and my grandchildren, and after I became a multi-millionaire, I set up a scholarship fund to help indigent people, especially adults, go to college. I don't know how many people I sent to college.

40 posted on 04/25/2019 6:34:16 AM PDT by Savage Beast (The Trump Revolution is the Resistance to the Decadence of Western Civilization.)
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