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Justice Sotomayor: Hispanics have 'rational fear' of Trump administration citizenship question
The Washington Times ^ | April 23, 2018 | Stephen Dinan

Posted on 04/23/2019 9:40:57 AM PDT by jazusamo

Justice Sonia Sotomayor said Tuesday that Hispanics may have a “rational fear” of their answers to the census being misused by the Trump administration, as she argued against including a question about citizenship in the 2020 count.

The Supreme Court heard oral argument on the thorny question, with the liberal justices saying they feared millions of people — Hispanics in particular — will toss the forms into the trash rather than fill them out, distorting the entire 2020 count.

“Are you sure they don’t have a rational fear?” Justice Sotomayor challenged the government’s lawyer.

The government said the question has been asked before, provides important information and besides, refusing to answer the census is illegal, so catering to the potential for Americans’ to take illegal action is fraught with its own perils.

Besides, there are ways to go out and find people who refused to fill out their forms, thus ensuring the government can get the information it needs — including citizenship information, said Noel Francisco, the U.S. solicitor general, arguing the case for President Trump and the administration.

He said the citizenship data is worth it even if it means more hassle and the potential for fewer responses.

“There’s always going to be a tradeoff,” he told the court.

A citizenship question was standard on the full census for more than 100 years, then was shunted to the so-called “long form” census along with a bunch of other demographic and sociological questions in 1960. It’s still asked now on the American Community Survey, another census survey, though it’s not part of the questionnaire that goes to everyone.

That history complicates the argument over adding it back in.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2020census; aliens; citizenship; hispanics; illegalaliens; scotus; scotus2020census; sotomayor
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To: HamiltonJay

Sotomayor health issue? Please tell us more.


61 posted on 04/23/2019 10:31:36 AM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (0bama's agenda�Divide and conquer seems to be working.?)
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To: jazusamo
I guess they will have to take the blindfold off of the statue of Justice.

Sotomeyor is not an associate justice, she is an advocate.

62 posted on 04/23/2019 10:31:36 AM PDT by pfflier
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To: jazusamo

you would think a supreme court judge would actually understand what the official census were originally for - to set voting districts for CITIZENS (the only ones who can legally vote).

Time for your retirement judge on grounds of mental feebleness


63 posted on 04/23/2019 10:33:07 AM PDT by elbook
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To: jazusamo

And suppose they do have a “rational fear”.

What does that have to do with the Constitution, the law, or the carrying out of the Executive Branch’s responsibility?


64 posted on 04/23/2019 10:33:18 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Freedom is the freedom to say that 2+2 = 4)
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To: jazusamo

If they are illegal, they have a rational fear of being CAUGHT.


65 posted on 04/23/2019 10:34:59 AM PDT by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: jazusamo

Ask the question! And don’t ask about race/ethnicity!


66 posted on 04/23/2019 10:37:02 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Lying Media: willing and eager allies of the hate-America left.)
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To: jazusamo

“rational fear”.....LOL, in my world we call it Felons Guilt.


67 posted on 04/23/2019 10:39:49 AM PDT by Gator113 ( ~~Trump 2020~~ There needs to be a quieting of the screaming lambs.)
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To: jazusamo

Fear of being asked if you are a citizen. What wonderful people.


68 posted on 04/23/2019 10:47:28 AM PDT by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant.)
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To: jazusamo

The citizenship question has been asked for 200 years. They should go back to having census takers coming to your residence and everyone in the household is listed on the census, with the head of the household verifying for them all. To hell with computer generated counting. It’s ripe for fraud.


69 posted on 04/23/2019 10:49:16 AM PDT by NKP_Vet ("Man without God descends into madness”)
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To: jazusamo

70 posted on 04/23/2019 10:52:58 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: jazusamo; bitt
Just straight out ask if the person answering the census form is an illegal alien!

Title 13 - CENSUS

SUBCHAPTER V—MISCELLANEOUS
§101. Defective, dependent, and delinquent classes; crime
(a) The Secretary may collect decennially statistics relating— (1) to the defective, dependent, and delinquent classes; and
(2) to crime, including judicial statistics pertaining thereto.

(b) The statistics authorized by subsection (a) of this section shall include information upon the following questions, namely: age, sex, color, nativity, parentage, literacy by race, color, nativity, and parentage, and such other questions relating to such subjects as the Secretary deems proper.
(c) In addition to the decennial collections authorized by subsections (a) and (b) of this section, the Secretary may compile and publish annually statistics relating to crime and to the defective, dependent, and delinquent classes.
(Aug. 31, 1954, ch. 1158, 68 Stat. 1018.)

71 posted on 04/23/2019 10:53:18 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy; All

The citizenship question has been included in the census for 200 years. It went to the long form in 1965 and was deleted by Rahm Emanuel in 2010.

The citizenship question has always been necessary to adjust for slaves and to exclude non-taxed Indians. Subsequent amendments to the Constitution made it even more compelling to include the citizenship question.

The key population of the census is known as the ‘Apportionment Population’. This is the population of Americans that are entitled to representation in Congress. Not all who breathe the air inside the borders of the United States are entitled to representation in Congress.

On Obama’s orders, Rahm Emanuel deleted the citizenship question from the 2010 Census for one reason only, to include the enormous number of illegals which are by and large concentrated in Democratically controlled urban areas to be counted as part of the Apportion Population, thus apportioning more congressional seats to Democrat strongholds.


72 posted on 04/23/2019 10:54:28 AM PDT by Hostage (Article V)
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To: jazusamo

What really sucks are the people RIGHT HERE who are willing to enable her because so and so Republican is a RINO, and therefore they sit it out.


73 posted on 04/23/2019 10:58:47 AM PDT by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart - I just don't tell anyone.)
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To: Reno89519

FDR rounded up Japanese citizens in the 1940s illegally using census data.


74 posted on 04/23/2019 10:59:27 AM PDT by LongWayHome
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To: jazusamo

Deciding the efficiency of the census based on the questions is not the court’s purpose. The efficiency is to be decided by the administrative state. The court is to rule on the legality of it. Who may or may not throw it away has nothing to do with the legality.


75 posted on 04/23/2019 11:02:13 AM PDT by kjam22
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To: BobL
Bob the Republican party is in the pocket of globalist corpratists. Unless that changes the country is doomed.

Republican Party is not a good product.

76 posted on 04/23/2019 11:02:41 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: jazusamo

Automatic recusal


77 posted on 04/23/2019 11:08:30 AM PDT by databoss
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To: jazusamo

“Hispanics” is a made up thing you TARD!!!


78 posted on 04/23/2019 11:16:32 AM PDT by The Toll
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To: TribalPrincess2U

She is a Type 1 diabetic


79 posted on 04/23/2019 11:29:09 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: cuban leaf

That’s my take. Plus, perhaps she doesn’t recognize the existence of “illegals”, in general. Many liberals take that line. “There’s no such thing as an illegal person blah blah blah”)


80 posted on 04/23/2019 11:30:33 AM PDT by Flaming Conservative ((Pray without ceasing))
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