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New Mexico Militia Detains Migrants At Gunpoint Until Border Patrol Arrives: Report
Fox News ^ | 4-19-2019 | Danille Wallace

Posted on 04/19/2019 6:32:02 AM PDT by blam

An armed right-wing militia group operating along the U.S.-Mexico border posted several videos to social media this week, including one in which they held about 200 asylum-seeking migrants at gunpoint near Sunland Park, N.M., until U.S. Border Patrol agents arrived, according to a report.

The militia group, which calls itself the United Constitutional Patriots, said it is determined to monitor the border until President Trump fulfills his campaign promise of a border wall or until Congress enacts stronger legislation to make it more difficult for migrants to request asylum, Jim Benvie, a spokesman, told The New York Times in a phone interview.

Yuma at breaking point over asylum seekers, Sen. McSally says ‘crisis getting worse everyday’ Video

“It should go without saying that regular citizens have no authority to arrest or detain anyone,” the governor of New Mexico, Michelle Lujan Grisham, said in a statement to The New York Times, adding that it is “completely unacceptable” that migrants be “menaced or threatened” upon entering the U.S.

The American Civil Liberties Union said in a statement that “the Trump administration’s vile racism” emboldened these groups.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; border; bordersecurity; illegals; militia; newmexico
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To: blam

Making a Citizen’s Arrest

If you do decide to make a citizen’s arrest, you should:

1. Tell the suspect plainly that you are making a citizen’s arrest and that you are holding him or her until police arrive.

2. Call the police.

3. Ask explicitly for his or her cooperation until police arrive.

4. Avoid using force, if at all possible, and use it to the minimum possible otherwise.

5. Do not question or search the suspect or his or her possessions. Your purpose is only to temporarily detain him or her until police arrive.

When police arrive, state the plain facts of what happened.

So, though not ADVISABLE, it seems civilians can arrest lawbreakers. Just because tinpot penny-ante leftist governors say they can’t doesn’t make it so.

I would imagine any GOOD Sheriff, GOOD Federal Marshall, even any GOOD Police Chief would appreciate the assitance. And besides, to stop the militia from affecting citizen’s arrests in the future, won’t the actual cops have to get off thier dead and/or corrupted asses and start patrolling these areas?

Just a thought.


21 posted on 04/19/2019 7:21:13 AM PDT by Home-of-the-lazy-dog ("Leftists will stand before you and cut off their own head just to prove that they'll do it!")
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To: blam

Needs more volunteers, about 10,000 or more.


22 posted on 04/19/2019 7:27:32 AM PDT by Daniel Ramsey (Thank YOU President Trump, finally we can do what America does best, to be the best)
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To: blam
Change the laws and illegals won't come here.

First law to change is fines for hiring illegals:

Any company with fewer than twenty employees will be fined one thousand dollars for each illegal found employed. Second offense fine will be $4,000 per illegal employee.

Any company with over twenty employees, but fewer than one hundred - will be fined $2,000 for each illegal first offense - and $8,000 each for illegals on a second offense...

Companies with over a hundred employees will be fined $3,000 per illegal first offense and $12,000 per illegal second offense.

23 posted on 04/19/2019 7:39:55 AM PDT by GOPJ (If illegals voted Republican Pelosi herself would be down at the border laying bricks. freeperbk1000)
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To: Balding_Eagle

Thanks! I missed Tucker last night. He’s probably the best person at Fox right now and presented a good summary yesterday.


24 posted on 04/19/2019 7:41:57 AM PDT by Reno89519 (No Amnesty! No Catch-and-Release! Just Say No to All Illegal Aliens! Arrest & Deport!)
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To: blam
“It should go without saying that regular citizens have no authority to arrest or detain anyone,” the governor of New Mexico, Michelle Lujan Grisham..

There is a fix for this, at least in Texas. The vast majority of border in Texas is private property. All these private landowners would have to do is lease the first 50 feet or so of their border to the militia groups for a dollar a year. I promise you, in Texas, YOU DO have the right to detain anyone trespassing on your leased land.

25 posted on 04/19/2019 7:42:57 AM PDT by eastexsteve
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To: blam

President Trump should call on Americans to volunteer to help secure the border. Ask them to come in 30 day deployments. Get them signed up, assign them as their skills and experience permit. Get them a week of training, then three weeks partnered with an agent, assigned a watching post, or something meaningful. Watch the Democrat heads explode. Trump can offer the alternative of a 100,000 troops if they’d prefer. It is a national emergency, time to act on that declaration. Today, now.


26 posted on 04/19/2019 7:47:31 AM PDT by Reno89519 (No Amnesty! No Catch-and-Release! Just Say No to All Illegal Aliens! Arrest & Deport!)
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To: Uncle Miltie

Crossing the border is not a felony, it is a misdemeanor.


27 posted on 04/19/2019 7:49:56 AM PDT by 98charlie
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To: Home-of-the-lazy-dog

Police do help patrol the border as part of operation stone garden.


28 posted on 04/19/2019 7:51:39 AM PDT by 98charlie
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To: Uncle Miltie

A key part of that is “a crime occurring in their presence”. Unless a militia member actually saw someone cross the border how would they know that someone is here illegally?


29 posted on 04/19/2019 7:55:22 AM PDT by 98charlie
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To: Lurker

Held illegals, Mossberg 500 in hand, many times while waiting for border patrol to arrive at the ranch in Az.


30 posted on 04/19/2019 8:14:29 AM PDT by ammomajor (If 'helicopter Ben' says gold isn't money, I want more of it.)
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To: GOPJ

Put am$1,000 bounty dead or alive on each illegal. Allow US citizens be allowed to become armed bounty hunters.


31 posted on 04/19/2019 8:14:38 AM PDT by DownInFlames (Galsd)
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To: bgill

The current procedure as affirmed by the 9th circuit court is to release them, into mexico while their asylum hearing is awaited.


32 posted on 04/19/2019 8:17:53 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12) Honduras must be invaded to protect America from invasion)
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To: DownInFlames
Interesting question, can anyone be a bounty hunter? I would presume so but suspect it is more complicated.

I have long advocated that we put bounties on illegal aliens. Specifically those with court orders or who have overstayed their visas. Put them up on a public website, Wanted $500 Bounty. Include whatever information is available. Let the American people find them, root them out, and then ICE can deport them all. It'd be good win-win for everyone.

33 posted on 04/19/2019 8:18:32 AM PDT by Reno89519 (No Amnesty! No Catch-and-Release! Just Say No to All Illegal Aliens! Arrest & Deport!)
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To: All

HalleluYah! (Praise God who is YHVH)! Or Yah for short.


34 posted on 04/19/2019 8:28:12 AM PDT by veracious (UN=OIC=Islam ; USAgov may be radically changed, just amend USConstitution)
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To: DownInFlames
No, that's not our way. But I'm almost ready to declare war on Mexico... When they're coming across by the thousands it's an invasion. If this was happening in some Middle Easter Country with paid lobbyist in Washington we damn well would go to war FOR THE BENEFIT OF RICH ARABS...

Their countries can't be invaded. Their borders MUST be protected... with OUR BLOOD and OUR MONEY- except for the cut that goes to congressmen and military goons for their 'speeches'... and donations to 'charities'... I'll bet the Clinton haul is down now that the thugs of the world feel their backs won't be scratched...

35 posted on 04/19/2019 8:31:00 AM PDT by GOPJ (If illegals voted Republican Pelosi herself would be down at the border laying bricks. freeperbk1000)
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To: blam

Excellent!

It was the right thing to do.


36 posted on 04/19/2019 8:32:32 AM PDT by Innovative
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To: DownInFlames
No, that's not our way.

But maybe we should declare war on Mexico... When they're coming across by the thousands it's an invasion. If this was happening in some Middle Eastern Country (with paid lobbyist in Washington) we damn well would go to war FOR THE BENEFIT OF RICH ARABS...

Their countries can't be invaded.

Their borders MUST be protected...

... with OUR BLOOD and OUR MONEY- except for the cut that goes to congressmen and military goons for their 'speeches'... and donations to 'charities'...

I'll bet the Clinton haul is down now that the thugs of the world feel their backs won't be scratched...

37 posted on 04/19/2019 8:32:52 AM PDT by GOPJ (If illegals voted Republican Pelosi herself would be down at the border laying bricks. freeperbk1000)
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To: BitWielder1

They will probably work harder to stop the “right-wing” militia than stopping migrants.
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Count on it.
George W. Bush called us vigilantes for trying to stop the illegal alien inundation that his policies were encouraging.


38 posted on 04/19/2019 8:40:03 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents_Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: BitWielder1

just hope it does not come to any shooting, that will be the end of the militia.”””

I wouldn’t bet my life on that at this point.


39 posted on 04/19/2019 8:45:40 AM PDT by TalBlack (Damn right I'll "do something" you fat, balding son of a bitch!)
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To: 98charlie
Crossing the border is not a felony, it is a misdemeanor.

But trafficking in human beings is a felony. ALl the others are material witnesses.

40 posted on 04/19/2019 9:24:20 AM PDT by zeugma (Power without accountability is fertilizer for tyranny.)
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