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The Lesson of Mueller: An innocent man's defense can look like a guilty man's obstruction
The Hill ^ | 04 18 2019 | John Solomon

Posted on 04/18/2019 10:06:37 AM PDT by yesthatjallen

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According to the Democratic Media Complex if you're innocent and you're angry at being accused and investigated for a crime you didn't commit you're not supposed to express your anger and frustration or offer a defense.
1 posted on 04/18/2019 10:06:37 AM PDT by yesthatjallen
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The message from LEO is almost always that if you’re not cooperating, then you’re probably guilty, or at least hiding something. Most people are aware of this, and tend to be cooperative at first. But when an ‘investigation’ quickly begins to feel like harassment, and you just want to live your life, it seems like “obstruction” is just human nature, guilty or not.


2 posted on 04/18/2019 10:10:45 AM PDT by z3n
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They are searching for heads to sever and display, but their Stalinist tactics are clear, or more like a German show trial with democrats screaming obscenities at innocent men. Its scary to see soo many people on a panel searching for a crime 2 years and $30 million dollars later, they are disgusting, small minds, chickens pecking at corn.


3 posted on 04/18/2019 10:13:55 AM PDT by TonytheTiger7777
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you're not supposed to express your anger and frustration or offer a defense.

Correct. Republicans simply don't behave like Trump does.

4 posted on 04/18/2019 10:15:23 AM PDT by JonPreston ( The GOPe is on board with the North American Union and the European Union.)
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Defending yourself from a fraudulent attack by people who give themselves power is not “obstruction”. It’s righteous fury.


5 posted on 04/18/2019 10:18:14 AM PDT by Regulator
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ESPECIALLY WHEN THE PRESS PROCLAIMS HIM GUILTY FIRST - INSTEAD OF “INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY”


6 posted on 04/18/2019 10:18:17 AM PDT by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing obamacare is worse than obamacare itself.)
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"As commander in chief, his words matter and can be construed as orders, good or bad. Temper tantrums might be fine in the confines of a CEO’s office or a board room. But on the national and global stages, where the U.S. president is the world’s most powerful figure, they are inappropriate coming from the Oval Office. "

More BS designed to hinder the speech and actions of President Trump. By the author's logic it is "inappropriate" to harshly call out someone, but it is entirely OK to order the death of thousands or even hundreds of thousands of people. If it is OK to order the invasion of foreign countries, or dropping an atomic bomb on a city, why isn't it OK for the President to use harsh language?

The left just hates hearing the truth, and is yet again trying to silence their opposition - even when they were guilty of spying on another candidate and then creating a fake investigation to cover it up.

7 posted on 04/18/2019 10:18:35 AM PDT by freeandfreezing
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Don McGann said he was asked but refused. If President Trump was serious he would have insisted and McGann would have quit or been fired. That’s pretty much proof that he was blowing off steam. The POTUS is always under stress, they all have different ways of handling it. Trump is like every CEO I know who rage and move on.


8 posted on 04/18/2019 10:18:54 AM PDT by McGavin999 (Border security without a wall is like having a Ring doorbell without a door)
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yesthatjallen :".. if you're innocent and you're angry at being accused and investigated for a crime you didn't commit
you're not supposed to express your anger and frustration or offer a defense."

When a non-issue, non-crime occurs, how do you protect yourself ?
You'd be frustrated too !
How do you prove your innocence without emotional turmoil ?
You'd be pi$$ed too !
You can't prove innocence in a rumor.

9 posted on 04/18/2019 10:19:41 AM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt
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Looks like the trending thought now is that in the future, if the government charges someone and he hires a defense attorney, he will be charged with obstruction of justice.


10 posted on 04/18/2019 10:19:51 AM PDT by odawg
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Obstruction of a non-criminal rumor can’t exist !


11 posted on 04/18/2019 10:21:35 AM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt
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To: Regulator

Also, I’m sure when you receive a letter from the IRS your first reaction is “gee, it’s going to be a great day”.....


12 posted on 04/18/2019 10:23:30 AM PDT by mikelets456
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The 10 “cases of possible obstruction” will be viewed as misdemeanors suitable for impeachment grounds by the dems.


13 posted on 04/18/2019 10:25:22 AM PDT by damper99 (pu)
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Trump was just ravaging to people who KNEW him AND also knew he was just blowing off steam, IF Trump had meant any of his remarks he certainly would have followed through!!! Corey and the other guy know how Trump works they KNEW he was just blowing off steam thus had no intention of following through with his requests!!! They both knew it was just Trump ranting!!!!


14 posted on 04/18/2019 10:31:58 AM PDT by Trump Girl Kit Cat (Yosemite Sam raising hell)
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To: yesthatjallen

The agents of Satan would rather believe a lie than the simple truth.


15 posted on 04/18/2019 10:32:12 AM PDT by ptsal
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Trump was just ravaging to people who KNEW him AND also knew he was just blowing off steam, IF Trump had meant any of his remarks he certainly would have followed through!!!

Right.

He was angry and frustrated and he was lashing out. It's human nature.

If he was guilty of obstruction he would have fired people who 'didn't follow his orders'.

No action. No obstruction.

16 posted on 04/18/2019 10:38:44 AM PDT by yesthatjallen
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Defending yourself from a fraudulent attack by people who give themselves power is not “obstruction”. It’s righteous fury.

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Either way, it doesn’t work that way against Law Enforcement and proprietorial authority.

By either way, I mean specific to the Trump collusion farce, where the power may be political, those who whole the investigative and prosecutorial power are inevitably going to see your “righteous fury” as proof of guilt. Obviously you have quite a bit of constitutional protection on your side against them prosecuting you for the actual crime being investigated, but that doesn’t stop the investigative harassment, nor the ability to prosecute your ‘fury’ as obstruction.

Even speaking generally, if a guilty man or an innocent man goes beyond lack of cooperation and begins working actively against investigators, the crime being investigated actually doesn’t matter in the question of obstruction. Now this seems like a travesty to the innocent, but it’s still common sense. For better or for worse, you’re stuck with it. Now I’m not saying Trump actually obstructed. It certainly appears that he didn’t. But you know the temptation was there. As I said, it’s human nature.

So perhaps there need to be more laws protecting the subjects of criminal investigations against such power being used to as tools for personal or political harassment, but the balance to that would obviously be not to make it harder to catch and prosecute real criminals.


17 posted on 04/18/2019 10:39:06 AM PDT by z3n
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The STASI team continues to stay on message and continues it’;s attempt create a crime that doesn’t exist. America is at a crossroads. If the public doesn;t stand up to this leftist Oligarc takeover, the country is just a few short years away from a horrible left turn. The Electoral college will be dumped, any Federal agency can be used run roughshod over individual rights and the left wing media will totally control the thinking of the entire country.

Trump better push back hard because this is not a time to joke around.....


18 posted on 04/18/2019 10:39:35 AM PDT by blackberry1
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The murder of Seth Rich continues to pay dividends if Mueller can continue to pretend that the Wikileaks emails were the result of Russian hacking.


19 posted on 04/18/2019 10:42:28 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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The correct answer is, “I did nothing wrong, so there is nothing I can contribute to the investigation.”


20 posted on 04/18/2019 10:44:43 AM PDT by WASCWatch
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