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Notre Dame Cathedral on Fire
The Telegraph ^ | 15 APRIL 2019 | David Chazan, Paris James Rothwell

Posted on 04/15/2019 10:33:16 AM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder

Notre Dame cathedral has caught fire, according to the Parisian fire service and eyewitnesses.

Footage posted online shows a large fire engulfing the upper part of the cathedral, with the flames licking around its two bell towers.

A major operation was under way, the fire department added, while a city hall spokesman said on Twitter that the area was being cleared.

Officials in Paris said the fire could be linked to renovation works being carried out at the cathedral.

It comes after France's Saint Sulpice church , used in the filming of Dan Brown’s ‘Da Vinci Code’ thriller, caught fire in March.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cathedral; crisisfires; didyousearch; distraction; falseflag; fire; france; koranimals; livenotredamefire; localnews; notredame; notredameburning; notredamecathedral; notredamefire; paris; stopsayingdysearch
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To: mewzilla

561 posted on 04/15/2019 2:17:35 PM PDT by maggief
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To: Campion

Yes, a rebuild will probably look very similar from the outside, but with everything new on the inside except visible stone walls.


562 posted on 04/15/2019 2:21:12 PM PDT by Will88 (The only people opposing voter ID are those benefiting from voter fraud.)
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To: dougherty

CNN actually doing a better job than Fox on coverage.


563 posted on 04/15/2019 2:22:25 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: VA40

Not sure how to post pics on here, sorry
But yes, strange two people all the way up there w/out more workers visible


564 posted on 04/15/2019 2:32:47 PM PDT by rainee (Her)
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To: ealgeone
CNN actually doing a better job than Fox on coverage.

Fox had Shepard Smith on this morning. It was unwatchable. CNN was much better this morning because whoever the anchor was, they were not a trying to make themselves a part of the story. It's dramatic enough, we don't need drama queen drama on top of it, Shep.

565 posted on 04/15/2019 2:35:33 PM PDT by Jack Black ("If you believe in things that you don't understand then you suffer" - "Superstition",Stevie Wonder)
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To: Pravious

Where the hell do they get these people?


566 posted on 04/15/2019 2:37:14 PM PDT by alabama_heart
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To: dougherty; miss marmelstein; maggief
Fox is worse than CNN in trying to cover up any Muslim involvement. I was watching CNN earlier and Chris Cuomo actually said they didn’t know what caused the fire. I was shocked he wasn’t in ‘defend the Muslims’ mode.

I've switched to CNN... they are doing a far superior job of reporting on the ND fire than FNC has been. They actually have reporters on scene, on at least two locations on opposite sides of Notre Dame Cathedral. The reporters are among Catholics singing hymns and praying.

How far FNC has fallen...

567 posted on 04/15/2019 2:39:11 PM PDT by nutmeg (democRATs: The party of Infanticide, Open Borders, Crime, High Taxes and "Free" Sh*t)
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To: dfwgator

Yes, if stress is already evident, putting additional weight is both redundant and unwise.


568 posted on 04/15/2019 2:39:28 PM PDT by Hieronymus ("I shall drink--to the Pope, if you please,-still, to Conscience first, and to the Pope afterwards.")
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To: maggief

That overhead shot is absolutely TRAGIC.


569 posted on 04/15/2019 2:40:10 PM PDT by nutmeg (democRATs: The party of Infanticide, Open Borders, Crime, High Taxes and "Free" Sh*t)
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To: patriot torch

Thanks for those links, Torch.


570 posted on 04/15/2019 2:40:44 PM PDT by Two Kids' Dad (((( Wake me when a prominent democrat gets prosecuted. ))))
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To: dfwgator

The exterior stone walls may have been preserved but I also imagine some heat damage to the massive stone. Clinkered faces, mortar cracked by heat, etc. etc..

From work in all sorts of new construction and old structure renovation, I want to advise people that old structure with what is called Heavy Timber construction does normally have a certain resistance to going up suddenly like this one did.

I was thinking that the roofing was turne metal construction or similar non-flammable exterior on top of wooden deck joist on heavy timber arches.


571 posted on 04/15/2019 2:40:56 PM PDT by KC Burke (If all the world is a stage, I would like to request my lighting be adjusted.)
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To: freepersup

Professional scaffold builder / journeyman carpenter / volunteer firefighter / US Army-US Air Force parachute rigger here, chiming in-

one worker can be seen with outstretched arms, likely working on the framing overhead that might support a visqueen (plastic) covering for weatherization.

That there are workers working on the scaffolding, is to be expected. I wouldn’t draw much of a conclusion from this action. There are bound to be many other workers present throughout the project, much closer to the source of the fire.

The wood framing has had centuries to cure / dry out, and the level of heat in the attic portions in the summer would be like an oven, adding to the dangerous nature of the fire.

A careless worker could have been smoking a cigarette and dropped hot ash onto some kind of material that flash ignited.

Hot work involving grinding or cutting might have taken place and precautions or prohibitions were simply not in place as required.

Some projects prohibit hot work of any kind due to the extreme dangers.

A short in existing wiring causing a spark leading to the fire may have been caused by an inadvertent disturbance during the upgrade.

Spark arresting techniques may not have been in place or even part of the protocol.

Example- when working on F-4 and F-16 fighter jets, precautions are taken to avoid sparks while working on the flight line. All metal jewelry, rings, wrist watches, etc. are prohibited from being worn when working on or near the aircraft, and the work stairs or platforms have brass handrails in order to diminish the production of sparks due to arcing.

Situational awareness:

While working on a nuclear powerplant refueling cycle, all radiation workers were required to watch a film about a small piece of wire that was dropped accidentally into the water cooling system of an operational reactor. Fretting (vibrations) of the wire against a fuel bundle caused a leak of radiation into the atmosphere, causing the plant to shut down unexpectantly, resulting in the loss of income and costing 80 million dollars to remedy.

While building an overhead scaffold, I dropped a piece of wire into the fuel transfer pool of the nuclear powerplant. I reported it as instructed, and a company out of South Carolina, was hired to retrieve the wire, charging $10,000 for a partial day’s work.

The plant management was grateful for my honesty (integrity) and wanted to make an example out of it by giving me a $25 Sears gift card, in front of my peers at a group safety meeting.

An after-action report determined that I was at fault for losing positive control of the wire.

The point I am making is that (having been educated on the big picture via the training film) it was critical in me reporting my mistake and that I could do so without fear of retribution or punishment.

Who knows how aware the cathedral workers were, on the prevention of fire and how dangerous the fuel source was, that surrounded them in the form of the superstructure?

I’m not even commenting on an intentional act, which- if it is determined to have taken place, was one- a resounding success, and two- easily accomplished in any of a number of ways, due to the powder keg (by magnitudes) that was unstoppable once lit.


572 posted on 04/15/2019 2:41:19 PM PDT by freepersup ( MAGA is the NEW third party, enjoying a parasitic feast off the host Republican body. OUCH!)
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To: ealgeone
CNN actually doing a better job than Fox on coverage.

Yup. CNN's coverage is MUCH better than Fox News'. Can't believe I'm saying that.

573 posted on 04/15/2019 2:41:25 PM PDT by nutmeg (democRATs: The party of Infanticide, Open Borders, Crime, High Taxes and "Free" Sh*t)
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To: KC Burke

If we put a man on the moon, they can figure this out. It won’t be 100% like it was before, but a hundred years from now, will anyone care about that?


574 posted on 04/15/2019 2:42:02 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: nutmeg

They’re literally burning a cross.


575 posted on 04/15/2019 2:43:12 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: ealgeone

It would be hard to do a worse job


576 posted on 04/15/2019 2:43:30 PM PDT by Mom MD
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To: freepersup

good summary


577 posted on 04/15/2019 2:43:49 PM PDT by KC Burke (If all the world is a stage, I would like to request my lighting be adjusted.)
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To: morphing libertarian

Muslim “accident” during Holy Week
hmmmm


578 posted on 04/15/2019 2:45:48 PM PDT by AbolishCSEU (Amount of "child" support paid is inversely proportionate to mo"tther's actual parenting of children)
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To: nutmeg
Yup. CNN's coverage is MUCH better than Fox News'. Can't believe I'm saying that.

Fox News always sucks when it comes to Breaking News, CNN has been eating Fox's lunch on that for years.

579 posted on 04/15/2019 2:46:19 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: dfwgator
I scanned the thread, and nobody has pointed out that the Christchurch mosque shooting was on March 15, and the Notre Dame Cathedral fire happened on April 15.

Coincidence?

If it were faulty wiring, a heat source, fumes, or something that could have happened at any time, one has to ask why it happened precisely at this time? Why the start of Holy Week? Why on the same day as the New Zealand mosque shooting one month earlier?

Can the coincidence itself be a suspicion?

-PJ

580 posted on 04/15/2019 2:48:07 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (The 1st Amendment gives the People the right to a free press, not CNN the right to the 1st question.)
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