Posted on 04/07/2019 11:07:18 PM PDT by Texan4Life
BS from the start....and un-Constitutional!
Who has benefitted?
- People with some horrible pre-existing condition that likely could never have gotten coverage previously.
- Twenty-somethings who graduate from college with worthless degrees and spend years on the job market without benefits of their own.
That’s pretty much it.
Obamacare kills about 250 Americans everyday.
Threw out the baby with the bath water! What did they expect? Thank you Roberts!
Pretty sure you don't!
I had breakfast with a doctor yesterday who is still a gung-ho Obamacare supporter, and this is why. I don't argue with him - he's a nice guy, otherwise - but he is convinced that the Cause of Good has been advanced by the Affordable Care Act and you can't convince him otherwise.
I'm not a fan of Obamacare, but that comment is pretty ignorant. Ryan White wasn't gay either, but received a blood transfusion, and ultimately succumbed to the disease.
Well for sure you are never going to be able to repeal those two provisions.
The ODDS of whether you contract a disease affect the actuarial tables. If I take my own steps to minimize my exposure to HIV/AIDS, I should be able to save money by not being covered for it.
People like Ryan White and Kimberly Bergalis were used by the media to scare straights into believing this wasn’t a predominantly homosexual disease which, in North America, it is unless you’re a junkie who shares needles.
Should I be forced to buy motorcycle insurance if I don’t own and never ride a motorcycle? Same principle.
See my reply above. One can take steps to avoid HIV contact to the point where one can reasonable take the risk of denying insurance coverage for it. There’s a big difference between “it could happen” to “there’s a solid chance you will get this”.
I understand your larger point and I agree with it, but one can contract HIV in a number of ways.
Yes, you can even get it from your closeted dentist.
Somehow, one exemption to ObamaCare is the “faith-based” health insurance companies originally designed for priests, pastors and church employees which are able to offer health care at a discount *because* people on these plans are not covered on behavior-related illnesses such as drug/alcohol addiction and HIV/AIDS based on the assumption that church workers are not high risk for these maladies.
It doesn’t mean they can’t suffer them, only that the odds are they won’t get them and so they save money by not being covered for them.
Had ObamaCare allowed regular people to opt out of coverage for various ailments, it might have been feasible. That was my original point.
That is my understanding as to why repealing the penalty alone won’t fix the problem for people; they won’t be penalized for having no insurance, but they still have no insurance.
I may be wrong, but the fact that there is still a debate about the healthcare issue leads me to believe there are still several problems stemming from the original “Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act” - mainly that it is still the law.
Some states have reinstated the penalty and more are likely to follow. Even if Obamacare was repealed at the national level, it is likely some states would do their version of RomneyCare.
https://www.healthcare.com/blog/states-with-individual-mandate/
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