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1 posted on 04/04/2019 1:12:05 AM PDT by Kaslin
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It needn’t be destroyed directly. Just totally separate the Federal Government from it except for the Service Academies. No grants. No research funds. No loans. No government scholarships or loan guarantees. Not one federal tax dollar to Education at any level. The market will take care of the problem quickly.


2 posted on 04/04/2019 1:22:40 AM PDT by arthurus (dsgt)
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If and I say IF I had the money, I would send my grandkids to Hillsdale College. If they would go, otherwise I would let them do what they want without my financial help. A crap education is a waste of money and time. The other colleges I’ve been too have been crap. You want good output go to good processors.


3 posted on 04/04/2019 1:23:42 AM PDT by Equine1952 (Get yourself a ticket on a common mans train of thought)
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College shouldn’t cost as much as a house and nobody should take on epic debt to pay for it whether they are a student or a parent.

Degrees are now required for taking customer orders by phone. A job like that doesn’t even begin to make 100,000 or more in debt worth it.

Sure, kids can get good grades and scholarships. Many scholarships aren’t strictly merit based though. If you’re white and you come from a middle class family it’s harder. There are scholarships for every minority under the sun, trannies, gays, you name it. There’s even a scholarship for children of strawberry pickers.

I believe people should start with community college to get the basic requirements, then transfer to the four year college to get the desired occupational classes and finish the degree. That route is good for determining if a student is cut out for college in the first place and it saves a lot of money.

A college degree has no guarantee of riches and success. A college degree doesn’t make someone better than the guy who went to trade school. Unless you’re planning to be in tech, medicine or law all it says is you’ve been properly indoctrinated into “polite” society and even paid for the privilege proving yourself to be a model prisoner and suitably malleable.


4 posted on 04/04/2019 1:41:08 AM PDT by Califreak (If Obama had been treated like Trump the US would have been burnt down before Inauguration Day)
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5 posted on 04/04/2019 1:46:28 AM PDT by EasySt (Say not this is the truth, but so it seems to me to be, as I see this thing I think I see #KAG)
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ivy plague destroyed themselves, we had nothing to do with it


6 posted on 04/04/2019 2:38:04 AM PDT by 867V309 (Lock Her Up)
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•The University of Kansas is offering a course on angry white men this upcoming fall semester - The course will examine “manifestations of male anger” and the role of “dominant and subordinate masculinities.”

I have an undergraduate in Engineering and four masters degrees.

My most recent degree was awarded just last year, and I can attest that at least some colleges and universities today have become infected and polluted beyond the point of repair.

They are not "storehouses of learning", but boot camps for race baiters, leftists, Marxists, homosexuals, radical atheists, and purveyors of destructive ideologies.

Moreover, while the media is focusing on these rich parents who bribed officials so that their children were admitted, no one in the media or politics wants to discuss affirmative action and the policy of admitting students who are illiterate and/or have IQs in the mentally retarded range. Many of these students are not only admitted; they are given a free ride because of their race, or because they can play college sports.



7 posted on 04/04/2019 2:40:35 AM PDT by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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A good time for Donald to step in.

Some of these elite schools are nonprofits; they don’t pay taxes on profits their invested endowments make — which saves them a lot of money.

One report noted that between the 2011 and 2015 fiscal years, the Ivy Leagues received a $9.6 billion tax break on the $27.3 billion growth of their collective endowments invested in public equities, fixed income, hedge funds, private equity, real estate and natural resources.

At the same time, the mega-rich schools receive tax dollars from the government for a number of purposes, which supposedly finance “cutting-edge research,“ and millions in federal grants for other projects.

One report noted $10 million in federal tax dollars went towards sex-related research, ranging from “Injury in Latina Women: Variability in Anal, Genital & Oral Injury in Women – Consensual Sex” to “ Skin Elasticity and Skin Color: Understanding Health Disparity in Sexual Assault.”

Between 2010 and 2015, the eight Ivies received $23.89 billion in federal grants..... $10.6 billion of which came from the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services and the National Institutes of Health.

Other sources of federal education grants:
<><> the National Science Foundation,
<><> the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention,
<><> the Department of Defense, and,
<><> the Department of Energy.

Federal tax dollars also fund work-study programs and Pell Grants.


9 posted on 04/04/2019 2:58:32 AM PDT by Liz ( Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use. testimony nder)
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“Destroy” is sensational - hard to take the author seriously after using a TMZ headline.


10 posted on 04/04/2019 3:07:57 AM PDT by HonkyTonkMan
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I will not be sending my kids to college. It is trade school r getting married young and starting a family for them.

JoMa


13 posted on 04/04/2019 3:13:17 AM PDT by joma89
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Organizations that accept bribes should face more severe punishment than the people offering the bribes.

Universities have muddied the admissions process with their racial, ethnic and other agendas. They do this intentionally so...in the end....they can create a system that benefits the universities...not the students.

Our politicians have created a similar system for campaign donations. An industry must donate money or face regulations that can destroy them. Gov’t bids are not awarded on lowest bid, but now with points systems for various agendas, like minority-owned, minority-employed, and other cloudy criteria that allows cronyism and bribery to take place.

This is socialism on display.


14 posted on 04/04/2019 3:20:32 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (The Democratic Party is now a hate-mob)
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Unless you're sending a kid to college for law or medicine I'd tell any parent and I do have your kid learn a trade. Plumbing is a great trade to learn. Plumbers make a lot of money.
15 posted on 04/04/2019 3:32:49 AM PDT by jmacusa ("The more numerous the laws the more corrupt the government''.)
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Propaganda and golden tickets for the elite are the real purposes of education, start to finish.

With skills training for our worker bees and nice jobs for leftists next in priority.


17 posted on 04/04/2019 3:37:01 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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The smart kids are the ones who realize college is not for everyone.


18 posted on 04/04/2019 3:44:54 AM PDT by FES0844
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The problem is out of control with these scams, but lots of parents have played by the edge of the rules for decades. One reason for that is that the rules vary by who you or your child is.

Affirmative Action means no one has to worry about their child being too dumb for the school. Affirmative action with scholarship means that less qualified kid pays less. Athletes? Exceptions were just an excuse to fill the team with students who didn't belong in the college academically. Even rich kids from wealthy suburbs know there's a quota on how many they'll take from each school.

I'm not excusing the parents or students who knew about it, demonstrated by posing for pictures of them faking it for a sport or letting someone take their SATs. Or pols kids at schools? Are they always qualified? Schools look at a variety of factors for admission. Their ONLY standard should be most qualified academically. Choosing for other attributes should only happen among those truly and equally qualified candidates. That's the necessary first step to cleaning up the farce that "selective" school admissions have become, after decades of doing what they damn well please in choosing students.

That's today rant from me. If it sounds angry, it is. I have my reasons.

19 posted on 04/04/2019 3:46:10 AM PDT by grania ("We're all just pawns in their game")
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Higher education commission to monitor what is being taught and review the curriculum before our tax money goes to funding, period!


20 posted on 04/04/2019 3:46:13 AM PDT by ronnie raygun (nic dip.com)
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About 99% of current college grads will feel that “sow with salt” line zoom over their empty heads. Most of them probably think “Carthage” is a rapper, or maybe a lesser Kardashian.

They're like the rednecks, who have heard of Copenhagen but not Denmark.

21 posted on 04/04/2019 3:50:07 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham ("God is a spirit, and man His means of walking on the earth.")
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My daughter finally decided to go to college at age 27, so her first semester was mostly remedial classes to get back in the groove.

Every other kid in her classes had just “graduated” high school, yet they couldn’t master basic math or English.

Most of them there were Obama’s kids who were just looking for a party on the taxpayer dime. They had no intention of actually getting an education or paying back the loans


24 posted on 04/04/2019 5:02:41 AM PDT by digger48
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Solution:

1) The ACT and SAT already exist to test literacy and numeracy. If a student ( of **any** age) scores high enough they should be awarded a high school diploma from their local school district. Let these kids free!

2) All employers should ask for SAT or ACT scores and then make decisions based on mastery of literacy and numeracy. If getting a job depended on actually being literate and numerate then our youth would have the incentive to shoulder their par in studying and demand that teachers use effective methods.
Except for the professions and trades,**MOST** of the jobs are learned ON THE JOB!

3) The professions:
**Most** Most Most*** of the foundation material is routine and changes little from year to year. Much is available ( for free!) on the Internet and used textbooks ( cheap!) What is needed are certifiable exams to test this knowledge. But...( obviously!)...Laboratory and clinics rotation experience needs a brick and mortar setting. **None** of the rest does!

25 posted on 04/04/2019 5:03:11 AM PDT by wintertime (Stop treating government teachers like they are reincarnated Mother Teresas!)
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The main reason though is that academia is the #1 culprit in the SPREADING and the FUNDING of culturally destructive Leftism.

Reagan supposedly had plans to address this in his second term, which is why the Left pulled out all stops to paralyze him with Iran-Contra.


28 posted on 04/04/2019 5:35:40 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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I was in Denmark in 1973. A Danish man told me that all children in Denmark at that time were required to take an exam at age 12. That exam would determine whether the child would take a college-bound educational route or a trade school route. They limited access to universities, in other words, based on that one test.

You can only set up a system like this in a homogeneous country, but remember it if you have any Bernie supporters in your family.


29 posted on 04/04/2019 6:37:20 AM PDT by beejaa
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