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To: Jim Noble; central_va; LUV W
Tax cuts and cheap labor are not going to win hearts and minds of a frightened generation who have been cheated out of their birthright.

You are absolutely right. The politician who votes tax cuts and facilitates cheap labor by open borders and imprudent trade deals is not concerned about the lost birthright of a generation because they reckon the bankruptcy is a generation off into the future or, if not one whole generation away at least one election away.

As long as we allow voting, radical change is coming.

Right again. Radical change is as inexorably certain as death. When the voters might ultimately bring that change down upon themselves will almost certainly be in the wake of real social disintegration or at least a very painful financial episode. We have exchanged thoughts, or least I have visited my thoughts upon you, concerning the artificial world in which we currently exist, a world of scarcity which falsely appears to us to be a world of abundance because of the peculiar position of the United States as a superpower, the world's largest economy, the world's reserve currency, culminating in an ability to borrow almost into infinity without immediate symptoms of inflation because of the very cheap labor coming from globalization and immigration and abundant cheap goods coming from ultimately lethal trade practices.

I think the problem is deeper than politicians validating open borders and free trade, in fact, I no longer think it is productive to blame politicians for doing what politicians do any more than it is sensible to blame scorpions for behaving like scorpions. Why? Because I believe that the people ultimately get what they want and, biblically, what they deserve. A politician who does not pander to the short term clamors of the electorate no matter how foolhardy the consequences, will soon be out of business. The business of politicians is to be elected.

Whom then do we blame? The electorate? Are they to blame for not recognizing the bubble? Are they the blame for listening to the Pied Piper's of globalization, crony capitalism, social welfarism? Are they morally responsible for failing to internalize that the music cannot play on? Margaret Thatcher's axiom, socialism is great until you run out of other people's money, does not seem to apply to our immediate environment because so long as we can borrow 1 trillion dollars a year there is no running out of money. Therefore, the politicians find themselves in a race to the bottom, if they do not pander to the short term desires of an electorate conditioned to live in this bubble, they are voted out of business in favor of the politician who will sell favors like the Mayflower Mdm.

After all, the electorate is in a race to the bottom as well. If a manager of a capitalist enterprise does not go offshore, if he does not hire illegal immigrants, if he does not lobby the government to commit crony capitalism, he too will be out of business. Is the dead-end hamburger flipper to blame for turning to politics as the other door to an economic future slammed in his face?

Oh, the reckoning will surely come. The waves of globalization, immigration, automation, and trillion dollar deficits cannot go on so they will not go on.

How do we get ourselves into this fix? The founders understood human nature and did everything within their power and within the considerable genius of their foresight to create structural barriers to human nature. Checks and balances and separation of powers, all dependent upon the rule of law have been eroded over time until we reached the nadir in this mayoral race in Chicago where there is no two-party contest, therefore, there is no separation of powers. We have a one-party state and that inevitably leads to the kind of corruption that brought down the Soviet Union.

So I do not think it was one particular mistake on one particular issue that has brought us to this perilous state. Rather I think it is the erosion of the moral values upon which our founders were also relying that over time have come adrift from the Constitution and its checks and balances which otherwise might have saved us from ourselves.

This implies the decline of our epistemology, our theology, our understanding of what is good and decent and proper. I have often pointed to The Frankfurt School as an obvious turning point in the history of modern thought with profound political and social implications. Indeed, the idea of The Frankfurt School was to affect politics by changing the social culture. Clearly, it has succeeded to a point that would satisfy even the likes of George Soros.

In the years on these threads that I have been writing in support of than Article V approach to restoring the Constitution by the means provided in the Constitution to become an instrument in keeping with the Founder's understanding, I have always conditioned my hope on the understanding that no amendment of any consequence was possible absent some sort of great dislocation. Although you and I differ on the wisdom of an Article V approach, we both believe that a reckoning is coming.

With the reckoning must come an agonizing reappraisal, a come to Jesus moment on a national level. This must be a bottom-up not a top-down moral realignment. No one with even a limited glimpse of history can be confident of that outcome.


184 posted on 04/03/2019 11:28:00 AM PDT by nathanbedford (attack, repeat, attack! Bull Halsey)
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To: nathanbedford

Very interesting analysis. I wonder if the fuse of social disintegration and true upheaval could be lit in Chicago by busing in thousands of illegals from the current open border disaster and simply releasing them downtown? There has been considerable discussion about the catch and release now happening daily and where to release invaders who are receiving virtually no screening other than transportation to various cities. This could be the moment to show what happens when theCloward-Piven strategy wins.


186 posted on 04/03/2019 12:13:25 PM PDT by Truth29
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To: nathanbedford

An epic summary of our current circumstances.


205 posted on 04/03/2019 3:21:49 PM PDT by Scott from the Left Coast (You may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you...)
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To: nathanbedford
With the reckoning must come an agonizing reappraisal, a come to Jesus moment on a national level. This must be a bottom-up not a top-down moral realignment. No one with even a limited glimpse of history can be confident of that outcome.

I would say, a come to Jesus moment on a greatly multiplied personal level. I'm one of those old fashioned believers who asserts that Jesus is real, not figurative allegory for some hazy benevolent impulse inherent to us by which man must bring about his own salvation. We're sinners, and salvation must come from outside. Otherwise that "hazy benevolent impulse" will turn into something looking like Marxism where humans try to establish their own salvation without calling dependently on the Savior.

Even Donald Trump has been pressing the point of Christianity heavily. No fool he, Donald understands that his vision won't stand without that kind of spiritual basis. He might be the least Christian in the world himself for all we know (although God will forgive him abundantly) but at least he understands something about what Christendom ought to be doing and teaching.

207 posted on 04/03/2019 3:49:29 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (May Jesus Christ be praised.)
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