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Top Democrat (Wyden) Proposes Annual Tax on Unrealized Capital Gains
Wall Street Journal ^ | April 2, 2019 | Gabriel T. Rubin

Posted on 04/02/2019 10:52:34 AM PDT by reaganaut1

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To: reaganaut1

How about requiring all government employees to pay annual income taxes on the future value of their retirement benefits, beginning from their first day on the job?


61 posted on 04/02/2019 11:35:52 AM PDT by sphinx
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To: Red Badger

Love it!


62 posted on 04/02/2019 11:43:15 AM PDT by Zathras
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To: reaganaut1

“Democrats can point to plans by Mr. Wyden and others to answer the question of how they plan to pay for their policy proposals should they win the presidency and Senate control next year.”

can they raise $93,000,000,000,000 that way?


63 posted on 04/02/2019 11:45:13 AM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: reaganaut1
Bullshit anti-American Bobo-style "let's help China and the rest of world economically conquer the US because we're so evil."

Exile, we need exile. Other countries use it with impunity.

Drive Ron to the airport, give him a list of countries within range of the Federal jet he is being hustled aboard in handcuffs, and inform him,

"You may not return to the US or any of its terrorities. If you do, you will spend the rest of your life in a Supermax. Also, all of your assets have been seized and forfeited. Have a nice flight."

64 posted on 04/02/2019 11:46:08 AM PDT by StAnDeliver ("Mueller personally delivered US uranium to Russia.")
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To: reaganaut1

when are they going to tax air? oh, wait, they already are!


65 posted on 04/02/2019 11:47:04 AM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: Lazamataz

So, will people be able to deduct unrealized losses? No? Well THAT sounds fair.—————
Of course it’s fair. Only filthy rich capitalist pigs own stocks while honest working folk toil and moil for their starvation wages. This will be ever so much more fair.


66 posted on 04/02/2019 11:47:53 AM PDT by hanamizu
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To: reaganaut1

Doesn’t require you to sell anything-—it is all ‘pie in the sky’ ESTIMATES of what your items are worth.

Pelosi brought this up years ago with Obama & it got shot down.

Too many Congress persons had too many investments.

Anyway you assess this proposal-—it is built on ‘estimates’ of what your items are worth. WHO is doing those estimates???

Imagine having a house in the growing market in 2007 & getting such a tax applied & then your house value went down by over 50% in 2008 when Schumer & Obama crashed the economy-—

Where is your refund for the lower value?

THERE ISN’T ONE !!!


67 posted on 04/02/2019 11:53:40 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: Eleutheria5

N Nevada politicians worked hard to bring lots of new businesses to N Nevada.

They succeeded-—over 60,000 new employees in past 2 + years.

Home sales prices in Reno this year over last year—month to month== over 40% higher.

IF I have a house & I don’t want to sell it, I will have to pay a tax on ‘perceived’ increased value because the guy next door sold his house? !!!!!!

What a house of cards—

It is ALL perception...and non-binding appraisals.

IF you tell me that my property has increased THAT much in value-—PROVE IT—BUY IT FROM ME !!!


68 posted on 04/02/2019 11:59:11 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: reaganaut1

Democrats have less understanding of economics than Nikolas Maduro. This policy would force stock sales, crash the market, destroy capital formation, cause capital flight, generally wreck the US and even world economies, and result in massively reduced US tax revenues.

But the “rich” (i.e., anyone who works, saves, and invests a penny) would be ruined, so the underclass would be happy. Wyden, Dumbass-Oregon, should resign today.


69 posted on 04/02/2019 12:00:12 PM PDT by Chewbarkah
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To: Innovative

Taxing REALIZED gains is a horrible idea and always will be..........They were never taxed before 1913.........


70 posted on 04/02/2019 12:02:15 PM PDT by Red Badger (We are headed for a Civil War. It won't be nice like the last one....................)
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To: neverevergiveup

This is all a kissing cousin to Estate Taxes....Any assets I have I bought with AFTER TAX $$$$$.


71 posted on 04/02/2019 12:02:20 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: reaganaut1

Gee Mr. Wyden, if everyone is “economically equal” then who will be left to tax since the rich will be equally poor?


72 posted on 04/02/2019 12:06:38 PM PDT by FlipWilson
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All it takes is one law to strip that tax shelter away and charge an annual gains tax on IRAs and 401Ks too.

And will this tax have to be paid on non-market investments like private businesses, farms or even houses? And will they account for inflation or just tax your gain even if it comes from Fed induced currency devaluation?

73 posted on 04/02/2019 12:07:56 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Leave the job, leave the clearance. It should be the same rule for the Swamp as for everyone else.)
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To: FlipWilson
Gee Mr. Wyden, if everyone is “economically equal” then who will be left to tax since the rich will be equally poor?

Didn't Ten Years After write a song about that?

74 posted on 04/02/2019 12:10:10 PM PDT by dfwgator (This week I'm dfwredraider)
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To: Innovative

Absolutely looney. So if you pay tax on an unrealized gain, and the stock then goes down, do you get a refund the next year? If it recovers after that do you pay tax on the same gain again?


75 posted on 04/02/2019 12:10:54 PM PDT by Stevenfo
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To: reaganaut1
The Democrat Economic Plan: "If you earn it, tax it. If you spend it, tax it. If you save it, tax it. If it moves, tax it. If it doesn't move, tax it. If it breathes, tax it. If it doesn't breath, tax it. If you breath it, tax it. ..."
76 posted on 04/02/2019 12:15:15 PM PDT by Bubba_Leroy (The Obamanation has ended!)
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To: ridesthemiles

Sounds like a great way to extort a land sale at a deflated price.


77 posted on 04/02/2019 12:15:29 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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To: reaganaut1

Major flaw in the Democrat logic on this one:

If we pay taxes on so-called “unrealized gains,” what happens when, next year, if the market goes down and we sell the stocks at a loss?

Do we get a 100% refund from the IRS on those taxes we paid on “unrealized gains” that never were realized?

Inquiring minds want to know...

In true form, the Dems are always shallow thinkers, never thinking about the ramifications of their central planning fascism.


78 posted on 04/02/2019 12:18:04 PM PDT by AlanGreenSpam (Obama: The First 'American IDOL' President - sponsored by Chicago NeoCom Thugs)
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To: Eleutheria5
What about if real estate goes up but you’re not selling?

hyeah, us farmers will "just" love this one. Bad year in crops but your land appreciated upwards? Too bad.

The Taxman saidth: "Payth Up"

How else is the Democrats gonna pay for the goodies for the border invaders?
79 posted on 04/02/2019 12:21:28 PM PDT by RedMonqey ("Those who turn their arms in for plowshares will be doing the plowing for those who didn't.")
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To: reaganaut1

This will never happen. Too many Democrats make money this way. The stock market would crash.


80 posted on 04/02/2019 12:24:16 PM PDT by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing of poor moral choices among everybody)
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