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To: BlackAdderess
As I understand it, the kid had a 105 degree fever.

Everything I have read states 100 even, not 105. Importantly, the fever had already broken. This was over a MENINGITIS vaccine, which I don't believe is even on the list of vaccinations you are "supposed" to get or else. This isn't Whooping Cough or Rubella.

The family was holed up at home, only taking the child out to see the doctor.
41 posted on 03/29/2019 7:55:49 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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Reading the article and the comments. meningitis is a reportable disease in Arizona and the doctor referred the child to the children's hospital for further testing. When the mother stated that the child was better and the hospital told the doc that they did not go to the hospital, the doc had to report the "suspected contagious disease". The mother did not answer her phone when the doc called her. The police were sent on a routine call to check on the welfare or the family - the family refused to open the door.

It was not over a vaccine - it was over a case of suspected meningitis which is contagious.

47 posted on 03/29/2019 8:07:08 PM PDT by Abby4116
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To: Dr. Sivana

it was initially reported as 105, lethargic 2yo, with the alternative medicine DR ordering the mother to take the child to the nearest ER for further eval, fearing (viral) meningitis symptoms. The dr followed up with the ER and was told the child hadn’t arrived. The ER and the dr followed up with the mother who reported to the doc that the child was fine and then stopped answering her phone. After a 105 in-office temp, the child’s appearance at the office, and the knowledge there were other sick children in the home, the doc may not have believed her and called Child Welfare for a welfare check. Child Welfare got a ‘neglect/abuse’ warrant, which brought the police into it, to meet the Child Welfare person at the home.

There was some argument over the Child Welfare person being able to see the children. The end result was all three children were removed. I’m guessing the children are on medicaid, and so, ultimately, quasi-wards of the state. Which gives the state a rather large hand in ‘parenting’. So, if a medical pro, even an alternative medicine one, tells you to take your kid to the ER, you do it. Hanging up on callers and then not answering the phone is a sure-fire way to get people to show up at your door.


59 posted on 03/29/2019 8:46:20 PM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017)
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To: Dr. Sivana

Do vaccines even nelp, if given after you become infected?


79 posted on 03/29/2019 11:18:30 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: Dr. Sivana

This is correct. Meningitis vaccine isn’t even given to kids until 11 or 12 and it’s followed by a booster in high school. It’s notbapplivable to this situation


89 posted on 03/30/2019 6:11:44 AM PDT by nurees (Oh...there is a NEW Mexico (Homer Simpson))
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To: Dr. Sivana

The mom took the kid to the doctor with a 105 degree fever. The doctor told her to take the child straight to the ER. She left and instead of taking the kid to the hospital she took him home and phoned the doctor, telling him the fever was gone now and everything was OK. The doctor told her again to take the child to the ER, she said she would, and didn’t do it. Three hours later the doctor called the police.


92 posted on 03/30/2019 9:54:39 AM PDT by BlackAdderess (The media lies, the taxes for my working class self are lower this year. Thank you POTUS Trump!)
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