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Trump amps up defense against EMP attacks
wnd.com ^ | 3/26/2019 | Unknown

Posted on 03/27/2019 8:18:01 AM PDT by rktman

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To: _Jim
re: "We are more vulnerable to nationwide grid failure than we have ever been. "

And your basis for saying this is - you read a report?

Pure logic. If we have a nationwide grid failure, we are more vulnerable to it than we have ever been.

We have never been so dependent on the electric grid as we are today.

It is a simple statement of fact.

21 posted on 03/27/2019 8:34:23 AM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: _Jim

Seems like you’re gonna have fun today.


22 posted on 03/27/2019 8:34:48 AM PDT by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: _Jim
"We are more vulnerable to nationwide grid failure than we have ever been. "

Because we have mandated "smart meters" in virtually every home and business in the nation, which a)have far more delicate circuits than the old analog models, and b)open up literally millions of new entry points for malware from creative hackers.


23 posted on 03/27/2019 8:35:48 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: _Jim
I’ll bet you bought into the Y2K hype too.

I saw some people who went crazy about it and got burned.

In the DOD, we did a huge amount of work to make sure it would not happen. All mandated from high up.

How much of that work actually prevented anything is impossible to know.

24 posted on 03/27/2019 8:36:49 AM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: thefactor
I love FR EMP threads

Usually they are followed in a couple days by Fluoride threads.

25 posted on 03/27/2019 8:36:58 AM PDT by ASA Vet (Make American Intelligence Great Again.)
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To: rktman

Anyone who has lived in the country for any length of time knows and understands the impact of loss of electrical service as that is what EMP is about. To others I suggest you just go to your electrical panel and water service, turn it off and see how well you do. Oh, and don’t touch that phone, it doesn’t work either.


26 posted on 03/27/2019 8:37:35 AM PDT by pepperdog
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To: rktman

I have heard that in Texas, they have transformers in their distribution hubs that are installed, but electrically disconnected. They are pre-installed spares. If something like that happens, then the backup can be physically connected to the long wire grid.

They also use these to swap out transformers for servicing. I don’t know if this is true. I did a little research on this after reading One Second After.


27 posted on 03/27/2019 8:39:08 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: ASA Vet

Chlorinated drinking water. Yucca mountain. The hits keep coming.


28 posted on 03/27/2019 8:40:15 AM PDT by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: FreedomPoster
Also might come in handy in the case of another “Carrington Event”.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_storm_of_1859

29 posted on 03/27/2019 8:41:52 AM PDT by MRadtke (Light a candle or curse the darkness?)
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I’ll bet you bought into the Y2K hype too.

You call it "hype" because you never saw it happen.

I made some good money working long hours in the late 90s fixing systems to keep the Y2K disaster from happening. On the whole, we were tremendously successful.

...and now you dismiss it as mere "hype". That's because we prevented it from occurring.

To quote Mark Levin, "THANK ME!"

30 posted on 03/27/2019 8:44:23 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (Marxism: Trendy theory, wrong species)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

re: “Because we have mandated “smart meters” “

Non-sequitur.

Show me how this translates to HV transformers failing in substations yards ALL across the country ..


31 posted on 03/27/2019 8:44:32 AM PDT by _Jim (Save babies)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
Because we have mandated "smart meters" in virtually every home and business in the nation, which a)have far more delicate circuits than the old analog models, and b)open up literally millions of new entry points for malware from creative hackers.

That is part of it. But with "just in time" sourcing, we simply have far less of anything in stock most places.

So much of our everyday lives depend on the grid. If it goes down, can the transportation system deliver enough food to the cities? Doubtful.

Can wastewater treatment and water supplies keep flowing? Doubtful.

Dairy farms and feedlots keep milking cows and feeding cattle? Almost certainly not.

Sure, they have fuel for a couple of weeks. After that, the cattle starve, die of not being milked, etc.

Are nuclear plants able to restart themselves, or keep their fuel rods cooled, after a grid shut down? No.

Those are just a few examples. All premised on the grid shutting down and staying down.

The big question is how can that happen, and how can it be prevented.

There is no question that we are very vulnerable *if* it happens.

32 posted on 03/27/2019 8:44:36 AM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: _Jim
All I see from you here is snark. Do you have anything of value to say or are you just here to try to make people feel stupid?
Because it ain't working.
33 posted on 03/27/2019 8:46:10 AM PDT by TangoLimaSierra (To the Left, The truth is Right Wing Extremism.)
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To: COBOL2Java

re: “You call it “hype” because you never saw it happen.”

I’m in the bidness of embedded code.

#1, Nothing in real-time, motor control, safety, depends on date. Billing, yes. Safety, no.

#2. You don’t think financial institutions ALREADY had ‘complaint code libraries’?

HOW did they ‘print out’ amortization tables YEARS into the future then? I had one on my 2nd mortgage for crying out loud.

Geesh ... you ppl just don’t think.


34 posted on 03/27/2019 8:49:06 AM PDT by _Jim (Save babies)
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re: “ Do you have anything of value to say”

Of course not. Not that you will understand. Is that clear enough?


35 posted on 03/27/2019 8:49:54 AM PDT by _Jim (Save babies)
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To: _Jim
Jim Jim Jim...

Just because YOU didn't see it in your "embedded" code (in which I also have experience), does not therefore mean that the Y2K incident did not have the potential to have happened.

But, you are obviously 100% convinced of your righteousness and implacable knowledge, so...

Have a nice day!

36 posted on 03/27/2019 8:59:58 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (Marxism: Trendy theory, wrong species)
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To: rktman

A Hawaiian judge will deny this.

/s


37 posted on 03/27/2019 9:15:45 AM PDT by ReaganGeneration2
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To: RinaseaofDs

I have heard that in Texas, they have transformers in their distribution hubs that are installed, but electrically disconnected. They are pre-installed spares. If something like that happens, then the backup can be physically connected to the long wire grid.

In Texas, we have our own electrical grid that is separate and distinct from the rest of the country. However, that would not help in an EMP issue (either natural or attack). The EMP fries the circuits, of anything connected, disconnected, powered up, or powered down, unless the device is hardened/protected against said EMP.

The EMP is a side effect, and potentially more devastating long term, than the nuclear explosion it could come from.


38 posted on 03/27/2019 9:21:29 AM PDT by ro_dreaming (Chesterton, 'Christianity has not been tried and found wanting. It's been found hard and not tried')
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To: rktman

Can we exclude California, New York, and all sanctuary cities from EMP protection?


39 posted on 03/27/2019 9:26:27 AM PDT by TonyM (Score Event)
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Here’s an idea: Require every newly constructed or remodeled gas station to include at least one gas pump that can be operated using a detachable hand crank.


40 posted on 03/27/2019 9:33:36 AM PDT by Gideon7
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