Oh and this post is from October 2018. In hindsight it is hilarious!
Posted on 03/26/2019 1:00:34 AM PDT by Cronos
his is the moment of truth for the government’s Brexit negotiations. We are facing a historic decision: precisely what sort of agreement will govern our relationship with the European Union, and what will be our future as a free nation?
As we approach the October meeting of the European Council on Wednesday, the auguries are not good. Our television screens have been filled with pictures of Downing Street aides scurrying around Whitehall to try to sell the proposals, and of previously quiescent cabinet ministers being summoned to No 10 in an attempt to calm their fears.
At one level this incipient panic is understandable. The government’s strategy has three fundamental flaws, all of which are surfacing as we approach the endgame.
These flaws arise from…
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Oh and this post is from October 2018. In hindsight it is hilarious!
The no-deal scenario is concreted down at this point. The EU has zero interest is offering anything else. But silently in each country within the EU...there are people now writing up damage assessments, and preparing for this summer (recession is coming). As much as the UK is temporarily damaged...the rest of Europe is hurt as well.
Would be nice to be able to read the whole article, just saying
The parliament has taken over from May. There will be a 3 way resolution vote later this week in which a 2nd referendum is an option. It’s quite likely at this stage that British knees will buckle and they will go a second referendum but that will depend on the polls. What a cock up (using British slang). How will the EU react to more uncertainty?
Exactly!
No ‘deal’ required, just EXIT.
(as required by the British electorate, (or don’t they count? )).
Why did the May government agree to paying billions for the right to exit ??? Doesn’t make sense to pay to exit when there was an initial cost at entry
Much ado about nothing (A Shakespeare Comedy). In his day, the word “nothing” and “noting” could be made to sound familiar. Noting was slang for rumors, while nothing still meant nothing.
So, much ado about nothing, and much ado about rumors, worries, anxiety.
There are really only minor details to be worked out but the EU has made themselves into such a labyrinthine bureaucracy that it is hard to reach common ground. One of the issues that drove many British into the Brexit camp was the fact that the EU placed something like 37 different regulations on teapots! Well we all know the British have a tradition with tea, and they don’t seem to have too many problems with whatever teapots they choose to use, and can’t quite understand why every bit of a teapot needs to be regulated. It is such an overreach, they actually hired people to write teapot regulations, and teapot enforcers. It’s nanny statism to the extreme and completely anti-competitive.
So deal or no deal, UK should leave the EU. They are not part of the Euro currency. The terms of separation should be simple. We’ll tax your imports as much as you tax ours; if trade imbalance exceeds x% we’ll modify it; give us access to your markets and we will open ours to you. Not much more to it than that, other than the fact that there is so much minutia on teapots, farming, fishing zones, fishing quotas and much more.
If the British pound should tumble as a result of Brexit, that will be good for British exporters as it means the UK is exporting the pound to foreigners along with their goods, and ultimately those pounds have to come back to the UK to be spent. If the pound rises, that will be good for British consumers who can buy imported goods at better value and save more British pounds in their banks. See? Either way, it evens out in the end. Much ado about nothing.
it is too late for a 2nd referendum - they will never get one in place by May 7th.
The EU has already planned for the UK to leave by May 7th and is assuming a no-deal. They've planned for no-deal since January and the plans are in place
My impression is that the government doesn’t want Brexit, so they are creating problems.
Be like Brave Sir Robin and run away!
Maybe they can close the Chunnel.
“Everybody out of the Chunnel!”
It will take a lot more that Brexit for that to happen, but it's a start. We got rid of the royals in 1776 and France did it in 1789. Get busy, Brits, if there are any left there who haven't been completely pussified.
Think of the EU as a club -- and let's take a historical diversion:
Now as to the fees - e the UK has ongoing commitments. And whether the UK has paid so much into the European Project is a different matter
the UK government has financial obligations to the EU. These include the agreement to make budget contributions until 2020 and paying pensions for retired UK staff who used to work at the EU (such as Nigel Farage). The UK government will also have to pay the relocation costs of moving EU agencies from their UK locations to an EU country.
what the UK paid into the EU in past bought it benefits that it took advantage of at the time, like access to trade via the single market, and EU funding for UK infrastructure projects. The “divorce bill” is for stuff that the UK previously pledged to pay for, some of which the UK will continue to benefit from even after Brexit.
In this context, no, they don't count.
I agree. I have worked with EU Standards in Lab Testing and it is a nightmare as are a lot of the laws coming out of Belgium. I also think the ordinary Englishman has had enough of immigration and enough of being answerable to left wing euro trash on that issue.
She wanted to put in a trade deal and didn't mind tossing Northern Ireland under the bus, but then she called for a snap election that was not needed and had to get in bed with DUP so ruled that out
hmmm... what’s different about those standards for quality as opposed to, say, ISO standards?
Meanwhile, the vote on Articles 11 and 13, one of them has been renamed Article 17, is likely within an hour....
Minor details?? You mean a minor detail like the Irish border?
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