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In landslide vote, Florida House agrees to end ban on smoking medical marijuana
Miami Herald ^ | MARCH 13, 2019 | SAMANTHA J. GROSS

Posted on 03/14/2019 10:54:31 AM PDT by NobleFree

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To: SaxxonWoods
Using your thinking means peanuts should be illegal too.

One mistake and you are dead if you “lost life’s lottery”.

Consistency is to prohibitionism what sunlight is to vampires.

61 posted on 03/14/2019 2:32:22 PM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: American in Israel

People who refused to obey drug laws are easy to control? That really doesn’t make a lot of sense.


62 posted on 03/14/2019 3:30:49 PM PDT by Hugin ("Not one step from his weapons should a traveler take"...Havamal 38)
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To: dp0622

Excellent!

Hope you have good results quickly
FReegards


63 posted on 03/14/2019 3:33:25 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Hugin

People who are on psychoactive drugs are easy to control. This thread is about legalization, not illegalization.

Perhaps that will clear it up.

On your point:

” Did you really think we want those laws observed?” said Dr. Ferris. “We want them to be broken. You’d better get it straight that it’s not a bunch of boy scouts you’re up against... We’re after power and we mean it... There’s no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren’t enough criminals one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What’s there in that for anyone? But just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced or objectively interpreted – and you create a nation of law-breakers – and then you cash in on guilt. Now that’s the system, Mr. Reardon, that’s the game, and once you understand it, you’ll be much easier to deal with.

—Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged


64 posted on 03/14/2019 3:38:42 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: American in Israel

My real life experience contradicts your theory.


65 posted on 03/14/2019 3:45:23 PM PDT by Hugin ("Not one step from his weapons should a traveler take"...Havamal 38)
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To: American in Israel
The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren’t enough criminals one makes them.

Sounds like a pro-legalization statement to me.

66 posted on 03/14/2019 3:54:21 PM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: DiogenesLamp

The war on drugs is a farce and creates criminals. It is a moneymaker for governments. And has robbed Americans of personal property and wealth without due process. Broke up families. Murdered innocent citizens (and pets). It does nothing to stop drug use nor help its victims. But it does punish lots of people who could benefit from it and many others.


67 posted on 03/14/2019 4:18:10 PM PDT by TianaHighrider
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To: NobleFree

I submit the spike in thought disorders is due to the franken foods we’ve been eating the last 50 years & not because of cannabis.

Cannabis treated my mental illness symptoms.
Changing to a carnivorous diet eliminated them entirely.

You can hear me talk about it here: https://www.carnivorecast.com/podcast/brett


68 posted on 03/14/2019 4:44:50 PM PDT by TheStickman (#MAGA all day every day!)
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To: dynachrome

No it’s not. That’s a serious condition.

I am sorry.

I will say prayers tonight for her.

Boy on a thread like this you start to forget the issues you have and feel for others that have their own crosses.


69 posted on 03/14/2019 7:29:44 PM PDT by dp0622 (The Left should know if.. Trump is kicked out of office, it is WAR!)
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To: dp0622

Thanks - been a year and life goes on.
As one gets older, more folks around them die, but a child is the worst (even a 50 year old child)...getting ready to head to Dansville, NY for a brother in law.


70 posted on 03/15/2019 3:32:06 AM PDT by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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To: trebb

Brother in law passed on Weds and funeral is next Fri


71 posted on 03/15/2019 3:33:24 AM PDT by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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To: trebb

I did send prayers your way and will send more.

You’re a good guy. I can tell from the many interactions we have had here.


72 posted on 03/15/2019 5:27:23 AM PDT by dp0622 (The Left should know if.. Trump is kicked out of office, it is WAR!)
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To: TheStickman
[American in Israel:] Yes dementia and schizophrenia have drastically spiked in the last five decades. If you dont read medical reports

(I see I let a couple get by - since when is an increase over 5 decades a "spike"? And given that marijuana use has declined from 5 decades ago, where is the evidence that decades-ago marijuana use causes dementia and schizophrenia?)

I call BS - post links to the alleged medical reports that support your claim.

I submit the spike in thought disorders is due to the franken foods we’ve been eating the last 50 years & not because of cannabis.

I submit that there's no evidence on the table for any spike in thought disorders - let alone those thought disorders for which any link to cannabis has been shown.

73 posted on 03/15/2019 7:53:49 AM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: TianaHighrider
The lack of a war on drugs destroyed China. 100 million dead as a consequence of allowing the people to use drugs.

People think our efforts to stop the population from using drugs are a disaster, but this is because they are ignorant of what happened to China because they allowed drugs.

People don't learn from history. They think the world began when they were born.

74 posted on 03/15/2019 8:28:56 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: TheStickman
I submit the spike in thought disorders is due to the franken foods we’ve been eating the last 50 years & not because of cannabis.

Cannabis treated my mental illness symptoms. Changing to a carnivorous diet eliminated them entirely.

I think you may be right about everything you said.

75 posted on 03/15/2019 8:30:59 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp
The lack of a war on drugs destroyed China.

The lack of a war on drugs for over a century did not destroy the United States.

People don't learn from history.

The irony is priceless. Particularly given your adamant refusal to learn anything from the history of Prohibition.

76 posted on 03/15/2019 8:33:29 AM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: NobleFree
The lack of a war on drugs for over a century did not destroy the United States.

Didn't have British shipping in tons of the stuff everyday. As has been pointed out many times before, the Civil War started the USA towards massive drug addiction, but by the time it was getting bad, the Federal authorities stepped in and stopped it.

We didn't go through China like destruction because we banned drugs at the beginning of the 20th century.

But you don't care. You are just going to keep repeating your same pablum over and over again.

77 posted on 03/15/2019 8:40:03 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Hugin

Denial ain’t just a river in Egypt...


78 posted on 03/15/2019 8:41:13 AM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: DiogenesLamp
the Civil War started the USA towards massive drug addiction,

"Soldiers' disease" was far from "massive" - and its inception during wartime gives no reason whatsoever to suppose it would propagate during peacetime.

but by the time it was getting bad, the Federal authorities stepped in and stopped it.

Actions against drugs didn't start until decades after the war ended.

So far the lessons of history are against you.

79 posted on 03/15/2019 8:46:43 AM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: DiogenesLamp

China’s problems are not because of any freedoms with drugs. The political system, corruption, lack of opportunity, poverty, etc. Is the root of their drug addicts problems.

China is a mess. Not because of drugs. The addicts are the symptoms only. Freedom is not something China allows. It is not a fair comparison in the least.


80 posted on 03/15/2019 9:19:03 AM PDT by TianaHighrider
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