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Reps. Jordan and Meadows: Democrats don't care about the integrity of the census
foxnews.com ^ | 3/13/2019 | REPS JORDAN AND MEADOWS

Posted on 03/13/2019 7:11:15 PM PDT by bitt

Do you know how many people in the United States are American citizens? No one does. And the Democrats don’t want you to find out.

For nearly 150 years, the United States asked people whether they were citizens when filling out various census forms. Thomas Jefferson first proposed the idea in 1800. A citizenship question was added to the official census in 1820. The question was consistently asked until 1960. In December of 2017, the Trump administration added the question back to the survey.

Democrats were furious when news broke that the citizenship question would be added to the 2020 census. They argued that “Adding [the] question to the 2020 census could scare away millions of immigrants from filling out their mandatory surveys.”

Several liberal states immediately sued the Trump administration, mistakenly arguing that the administration had acted arbitrarily when it added the citizenship question back into the survey. The case now awaits its fate in the Supreme Court. But that isn’t stopping the Democratic-led House Oversight Committee from calling Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross to testify about the administration’s decision on Thursday.

Such a hearing is designed to interfere with the ongoing Supreme Court case. The inappropriateness of this is not a partisan issue. Even President Bill Clinton’s assistant attorney general, Robert Raben, warned that holding a Congressional hearing in the midst of litigation creates the risk that the court will be swayed by undue political and Congressional influence.

All of this begs the question: Why wouldn’t we want to know how many American citizens live in America?

Asking a citizenship question is common when filling out government forms. For instance, states throughout the country ask people whether they are citizens when getting a driver’s license, applying for college, and registering to vote.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: census; jordan; meadows

1 posted on 03/13/2019 7:11:15 PM PDT by bitt
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2 posted on 03/13/2019 7:11:28 PM PDT by bitt (The pain IS coming!!!)
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To: bitt

The Demonrats know they don’t need to follow any rules because the Republicans will sit in a corner and behave like good little children should. We NEED more Pubs like Meadows and Jordan that will call it for what it is. Some of these cowards just might be surprised to see how much support they get from the American citizens by speaking up and meeting the Demons head on!


3 posted on 03/13/2019 7:21:12 PM PDT by Dawgreg
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To: Dawgreg

I think that only citizens should count toward reapportionment off the House of Representatives.


4 posted on 03/13/2019 7:29:22 PM PDT by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Gone but not forgiven.)
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To: reg45

off = of


5 posted on 03/13/2019 7:30:17 PM PDT by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Gone but not forgiven.)
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To: Dawgreg

We need more representatives like Steve King!


6 posted on 03/13/2019 7:32:35 PM PDT by Beagle8U (Lil Debby Slobbercow is Michigan's NPC.)
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To: Dawgreg; Hostage

http://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3734405/posts?page=68#68
post by Hostage

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Why are Blue States suing over a 200-Year-Old Census Citizenship Question? ***
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Citizenship is a normal thing to include in a major government survey, hence why virtually all major government surveys do. The census has since 1820.

1820
The first time the census asked about citizenship status was in 1820, which is actually before the census even introduced individual-level questions about age and sex (before 1850, all questions focused on the head of household, with other household members usually not named).

The 1820 question asked about “foreigners not naturalized,” so non-citizens. But that is certainly in the realm of a citizenship inquiry.

1830-1840-1850-1860
Place-of-birth questions were added, asking where people were born. That format repeated in 1860. To ask where you are born is a form of citizenship inquiry.

1870
In 1870, the census asked a citizenship question. All emancipated slaves were counted as “naturalized citizens,” as the Fourteenth Amendment had extended them citizenship. Indeed, estimating the effects of abolishing slavery was the key purpose of the 1870 citizenship question.

1880-1890 No citizenship related questions! Time to celebrate with lefties, no?

1900-1910-1920-1930-1940-1950
Modern citizenship question: anyone born in the United States was counted as a citizen, including emancipated former slaves, while people not born in the United States but naturalized were naturalized citizens, and everyone else non-citizens. That question persisted until 1950.

1960-1970
The Census form was too long, too hard to administer; included questions about migration, income, education, race, sex, age, housing, citizenship, birthplace, fertility, mortality risks, disability, and many other factors. Getting everybody to respond to this incredibly long document was increasingly hard. The 1960 census dropped some questions, and merged the formerly separate Census of Population and Census of Housing into one form. This format persisted until 1970.

1980-1990-2000
The form was still too long to conveniently administer to the whole population and lacked sufficient detail for many important questions about the population. The Census Bureau made a decisive choice: there would be two different census forms.

About 80 percent of people would get a “short form” with basic questions: age, sex, race, household structure, housing tenure; 20 percent of the population would get a “long form” which asked more detailed questions including a question about citizenship.

So in 1980, 1990, and 2000, the census long form asked about citizenship. It’s simply false to say that no census since 1950 has asked about citizenship: long-form recipients did not fill out short-form censuses. 0ne out of five Americans filled out the long form. It was a large enough statistical sample to establish a baseline for all Americans.

2010 the citizenship question was REMOVED BY RAHM EMANUEL. Now why would he do that?

2020 The citizenship question has been RESTORED. But Democrats and their lefty judges are trying to block its restoration. Now why would they do that?


7 posted on 03/13/2019 7:46:49 PM PDT by bitt (The pain IS coming!!!)
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To: Beagle8U

We need more representatives like Steve King!

That goes without saying Beagle......;)


8 posted on 03/13/2019 8:43:13 PM PDT by Dawgreg
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To: bitt

1980-1990-2000
The form was still too long to conveniently administer to the whole population and lacked sufficient detail for many important questions about the population. The Census Bureau made a decisive choice: there would be two different census forms.

About 80 percent of people would get a “short form” with basic questions: age, sex, race, household structure, housing tenure; 20 percent of the population would get a “long form” which asked more detailed questions including a question about citizenship.

So in 1980, 1990, and 2000, the census long form asked about citizenship. It’s simply false to say that no census since 1950 has asked about citizenship: long-form recipients did not fill out short-form censuses. 0ne out of five Americans filled out the long form. It was a large enough statistical sample to establish a baseline for all Americans.

2010 the citizenship question was REMOVED BY RAHM EMANUEL. Now why would he do that?

2020 The citizenship question has been RESTORED. But Democrats and their lefty judges are trying to block its restoration. Now why would they do that?

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Thanks very much for this information!

Heretofore, I hadn’t realized there were 2 forms, because in all 3 decades, I received the LONG FORM!

1980, 1990, 2000 = LONG FORM.

Because I received the LONG FORM, I have been mystified by the CITIZEN QUESTION, given that nobody else in my immediate circle of friends and relatives remembers the CITIZEN QUESTION, but of course, I do!!!

My sanity is restored! I have been correct all along!
Can barely wait to make phone calls tomorrow!!

BTTT


9 posted on 03/13/2019 9:24:53 PM PDT by onyx (JOIN 300 CLUB BY DONATING $34 MONTHLY! TRUMP'SCENTER>AY IS THE WINNING WAY!)
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To: Dawgreg; Beagle8U

Steve King BTTT!


10 posted on 03/13/2019 9:26:06 PM PDT by onyx (JOIN 300 CLUB BY DONATING $34 MONTHLY! TRUMP'SCENTER>AY IS THE WINNING WAY!)
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To: bitt; All

One thing the Mexican Constitution has that we should consider doing.Mexico has no hyphenated Mexicans. They prohibit any reference to race when they conduct a census or issue any means of identification, Where a physical description is needed skin color yes but not by race or nationality or tribal background.By doing this Mexico has avoided “balkanizing”, creating fractional disputes in areas where a given group in one of its states is a majority or a minority.


11 posted on 03/13/2019 10:01:37 PM PDT by mosesdapoet (mosesdapoet aka L,J,Keslin posting here for the record)
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