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To: spintreebob

It’s chicken-and-egg here. People don’t want to train for positions that it’s highly likely they’ll lose to foreigners.


2 posted on 03/12/2019 3:14:16 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (May Jesus Christ be praised.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

From 1983-2012 and now 2017-19 there has always been a shortage of competent IT workers. It has always been full employment. Only 2012-2016 were times tough.

I don’t see much historical or factual basis for your reasoning. The project I’m on cannot find competent people to staff up. Sister projects run out of the same office of a Fortune 50 IT company cannot find enough competent workers.


4 posted on 03/12/2019 3:28:28 PM PDT by spintreebob
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To: HiTech RedNeck

From 1983-2012 and now 2017-19 there has always been a shortage of competent IT workers. It has always been full employment. Only 2012-2016 were times tough.

I don’t see much historical or factual basis for your reasoning. The project I’m on cannot find competent people to staff up. Sister projects run out of the same office of a Fortune 50 IT company cannot find enough competent workers.


6 posted on 03/12/2019 3:28:58 PM PDT by spintreebob
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To: HiTech RedNeck
It’s chicken-and-egg here. People don’t want to train for positions that it’s highly likely they’ll lose to foreigners.

That's the fighting spirit.

8 posted on 03/12/2019 3:46:01 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Good post. I think you're exactly right.

Part of the problem here is that we give a lot of lip service to emphasize the value of STEM fields, but one flaw with STEM fields in general is that they are almost all universal disciplines that can easily be transferred from one country to another. Math, science and engineering don't change when you cross national borders, so they tend to be heavily "commoditized" to the point where it's very hard for someone in these fields to set himself apart from his peers.

14 posted on 03/12/2019 4:02:53 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("In the time of chimpanzees I was a monkey.")
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