Overconfidence of media. Never mind yet another false comparison.
1 posted on
03/08/2019 9:22:02 PM PST by
Olog-hai
To: Olog-hai
"Much like the tea party conservatives who vaulted Republicans to power a decade ago, these Democrats firm ideology and wait-for-no-one swagger have set off a fight for the future of the party"
No,what is happening in the Democrat party is a Bolsheviks vs Mensheviks type struggle.
The Tea Party movement was to throw off the the encroaching Deep State and its attempts to cement its power.
To: Olog-hai
I guess the difference was that the Tea Party loved this country and wanted to help it move forward, by opposing Obama, among other things.
This bunch in the Democrat Party HATES THIS COUNTRY, and is trying to destroy it.
3 posted on
03/08/2019 9:34:38 PM PST by
BobL
(I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart - I just don't tell anyone.)
To: Olog-hai
Nans got an anti-American, anti-Semitic, socialist, islamist problem. Or put another way, business as usual in the democrat party.
4 posted on
03/08/2019 9:37:56 PM PST by
Sicon
("All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others." - G. Orwell)
To: Olog-hai
The AP article was surprisingly accurate as opposed to their normal left wing bias.
5 posted on
03/08/2019 9:43:23 PM PST by
cpdiii
( canecutter, deckhand, roughneck, geologist, pilot, pharmacist THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR)
To: Olog-hai
What a disgusting, insulting comparison.
Tea Party...freedom, life, liberty, lower taxes, smaller less intrusive government, traditional families.
New Democrats...socialism, enslavement, high taxes, massive state with its boot on your neck forever, gas chambers, destruction of the USA and Israel, every perversion known to man.
To: Olog-hai
Pelosi has a Me-Me-Me Party problem.
7 posted on
03/08/2019 10:26:10 PM PST by
BradyLS
(ODO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
To: Olog-hai
she has a Bernie party problem.
11 posted on
03/08/2019 11:50:13 PM PST by
blueplum
("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017)
San Fran Nan has lost control of her caucus. Nationally, there also is a growing split in the Dim party.
I thought I’d never say this, but I do miss the old Dims. These pip-squeek socialists scare the buh-jeebers out of me!!
12 posted on
03/09/2019 12:34:31 AM PST by
llevrok
(Vote while it's still legal)
To: Olog-hai
It's MUCH WORSE. The tea party, and conservatives, and republicans agree almost completely on principles. Disagreements were on priorities, goals, and willingness to compromise principles to reach goals. When you have agreement on principles, you can negotiate.
Old dems (liberals) and new dems (progressives) disagree on principles. One of the most obvious principles they disagree is individual freedom
liberal: I disagree with what you say but will fight to death for your right to say it
progressive: I disagree with what you say so shut up. If you won't shut up, universities and media companies should shut you up. If they can't, the government needs to step in
Liberals and progressives have similar disagreements on freedom, rights, sovereignty & separation of powers (states rights, US vs UN rights, court vs legislation, etc) almost every principle.
From Wilson to Clinton, Ds followed classic liberal principles and incorporated progressive principles where they could - sometimes compromising liberal principles, but at least being aware that they were compromising principles they valued.
Obama ran on liberalism even though he and his administration ruled with progressive ideas. Then Bernie came along and got a lot of D voters to abandon liberalism (with much help from universities, media, etc). They have voters, members of congress, the media and many presidential candidates fighting against liberal principles. It's not a large percent of Ds, but they are very loud. And liberal Ds have A LOT MORE IN COMMON with Rs than with progressive Ds.
I don't see any D who can unite liberals and progressives - that's not possible on principle but could happen with a focus on goals. I can see Trump convincing a lot of liberal Ds how insane progressive Ds are and that progressives are the future of the party.
To: Olog-hai
Listened to newty yesterday and he is right, the old rat guard is frightened, their reaching their 80’s and the new kids on the block were programed by the very rats they are now going to eat. Children of the corn comes to mind!
To: Olog-hai
"tea party problem"? Why is it a problem when voters want the pols they send to DC to keep to their campaign promises and to speak for them?
I support freedom of speech, both sides of the aisle. I despise labelling people in negative terms by what they wear, what they say and what (legal of course) activities they attend.
17 posted on
03/09/2019 6:45:10 AM PST by
grania
("We're all just pawns in their game")
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