Posted on 03/08/2019 12:24:47 AM PST by CondoleezzaProtege
An Arizona lawmaker has decried mandatory vaccinations as being tantamount to communism — an assertion that experts call a "false argument" that dangerously undermines efforts to control measles outbreaks in this country.
The legislator, Republican state Rep. Kelly Townsend, wrote in a Facebook post on Thursday that "it seems we are prepared to give up our liberty, the very sovereignty of our body, because of measles."
"I read yesterday that the idea is being floated that if not enough people get vaccinated, then we are going to force them to," wrote Townsend, who has written controversial social media posts in the past. "The idea that we force someone to give up their liberty for the sake of the collective is not based on American values but rather, Communist."
"Our country is sovereign, our State is sovereign, our family is sovereign, our God is sovereign..."
In a phone interview with NBC News, Townsend said her post has been misconstrued. She said she is not anti-vaccine, adding that she fully vaccinated her oldest child...
(Excerpt) Read more at nbcnews.com ...
So’s fluoride.
Or so I’ve been told/sarc.
measles outbreaks in this country
This is only the beginning of rampant disease. The USA has not reverenced God Almighty, followed His commands, asked for forgiveness, and sought His Wisdom. Woe to America unless her people repent and turn from their wicked ways.
The utbreaks arent because regular natural citizens are unhealthy.
Its because were letting in infected people with xotic diseases we arent usd to and strains we dont have here, so vacines against these strains wont do very well anyways.
Stop bringing in sick people. They would have turned my ancestors away if they had tb or a bunch of other illnesses.
In the decade before 1963 when a vaccine became available, nearly all children got measles by the time they were 15 years of age. It is estimated 3 to 4 million people in the United States were infected each year. Also each year, among reported cases, an estimated 400 to 500 people died, 48,000 were hospitalized, and 1,000 suffered encephalitis (swelling of the brain) from measles.
https://www.cdc.gov/measles/about/history.html
Unfortunately, not enough people are vaccinated, so there will be outbreaks of this very contagious disease. https://www.cdc.gov/measles/about/transmission.html
Here is an example:
He contracted the disease in May 2016 at his sister’s graduation from the Northern Illinois University College of Business. The Illinois Department of Health later determined that a guest who had traveled to the graduation from outside the United States had the measles
Perhaps there should be a vaccination requirement for tourists?
I had the measles when I was 5 years old on a farm outside Poughkeepsie during a blizzard where the doctor trudged through the snow in hip high boots to see me. I’m still here. That was 1959. I almost died. I recommend vaccination.
Centuries ago, no country would allow ships to dock in their ports if the passengers or crew were sick. They imposed a 40 day waiting period called a quarantine.
Now we just let them in unchecked. Vaccinations stopped disease until there almost no disease. Then antivaxers stopped getting their kids immunizations. Now disease is rampant again.
Whose fault? Liberals, illegals and idiots who don’t believe in vaccine.
According to antivaxxers, you should never vaccinate your children because autism exists.
We are understanding the etiology of autism better than ever. I wonder if, when we finally understand it well enough to test kids in utero for autism and most parents begin aborting them, will the antivaxxers finally stop pushing that narrative? No doubt, they’ll come up with something else.
I saw a great sign in a video. It was in a doctor’s office and said, “Vaccines cause adulthood.”
They must take this seriously.. Millions will die of Measles, esp women & Children. It is death at the doorstep. I remember the carts of dead from the Measles during my childhood... Shudder. Get vax or die.
“I saw a great sign in a video. It was in a doctor’s office and said, “Vaccines cause adulthood.””
I grew up when vaccines were just emerging.
I remember standing in line in school for a Salk vaccine.
I also remember the year before when the school closed for 3 weeks when some kid was diagnosed with polio. When we came back 3 weeks later, that kid was dead and others were crippled.
Nobody has to convince me of the value of vaccines.
Children whose mothers were hospitalized with an infection during pregnancy may be at increased risk for autism, depression and suicide later in life
She expressed concern in particular about women who refuse the influenza vaccine. “They are not only putting themselves at risk for serious and even fatal infections, but they may be putting their infants at risk for neuropsychiatric disorders later in life,” she said.
https://newsroom.uw.edu/news/pregnancy-infection-increases-child%E2%80%99s-autism-suicide-risk
Don’t recall who called Arizona a meth state it may be true with that logic.
YOU almost died but 99.9 percent don’t.
It’s a real conundrum for a prolife conservative to justify investing aborted fetal tissue.
That’s only the beginning of problems with mandating this crap
Wow. Such viciousness.
What do you define as an anti-vaxxer?
Because being educated and skeptical on vaccines is not a one size fits all.
There are varying levels of where folks stand. Broad brushes stoke ignorance and discord.
An anti-vaxxer is anyone who uses pseudoscience as a source of “information” and makes decisions based on it. The most malignant of anti-vaxxers refuse to give their children vaccines at all, putting them and other people’s children in danger. Others who are less misinformed still believe the trope that so many vaccines at once “overload” the child’s immune system, so want the vaccines spread out over a longer period of time than the vaccine schedule allows. This unnecessarily prolongs the period during which children remain susceptible to life-threatening diseases.
I have no respect for those who fear-monger about vaccines causing autism. They display malignant ignorance, in that they know the vaccine-autism myth has been debunked and that its inventor has been outed as a self-serving fraud, yet cling to that myth. It’s as bad as the climate change fraud in the level of misinformation involved.
If you want to be truly educated about vaccines, there are many good sources. The database I use, www.pubmed.gov, is mostly for scientists, but they do have sections for laypeople. WebMD is good. So is Mayo clinic. And you can always ask me, because I do take the time to verify that my info is scientifically sound before posting. Knowing vaccines and other countermeasures against infectious disease is one of my professional concentrations as a scientist. My other is toxicology.
Stay away from whale.to, natural news, Barbara Lee Fisher, and the many other anti-vax sites. They do not provide legitimate scientific information, but do have an agenda to bring back disease. People who fervently believe that the earth is overpopulated by humans and who believe that vaccines and other modern medical interventions are to blame are not going to tell you, “Don’t vaccinate your children sl that more of them will die!” Instead, they will try to persuade you to believe that your children are better off not being protected.
You are correct
All kids pretty much got measles. I had at least two and possibly three kinds. I have no memory of any kid dying. The cure was staying in bed, in the dark
“Others who are less misinformed still believe the trope that so many vaccines at once “overload” the child’s immune system, so want the vaccines spread out over a longer period of time than the vaccine schedule allows. This unnecessarily prolongs the period during which children remain susceptible to life-threatening diseases.”
The science is still unsettled on this subject.
The real unhappy truth that no one will talk about is that a calculation has been made that for the small amounts of people that have terrible reactions to vaccinations are more than balanced out by the good they do for the vast majority who get them. The damage the provax health professionals do to their own cause is to simply not be upfront and honest about the science. Vaccinations can cause side effects, even autism( as one insert I read that was included in a vaccine I had to give to a patient). The pro vaxxers play “gaslight” games, which only worsens the mistrust folks have of them.
I am not antivaxx but I am for continuous study and open and transparent reporting of benefits and risks. If a shot is found to have caused issues in a few that other wise has helped millions then we as a society need to step forward proactively and help those who have been damaged, not “gaslight” them and lampoon them as uneducated knuckle-draggers looking for a quick payout!
So the science is settled with vaccines because the powers that be said so.
And anyone who questions them or their motives is “uninformed”...
Does that mean we aren’t to question the global warming hysteria.
Because it’s the same hysteria coming from the forced vaccination crowd.
I use pubmed. I like it.
But I think it’s hysterical to think every kids body can handle all these vaccines at once with the toxins and live viruses etc.. but those same immune systems can’t handle what was once a mild childhood
Illness that almost all of us experienced.
And if people who want to spread out vaccines are so uninformed then what do you call the MANY MANY doctors who feel the same way. ?
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