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To: Berlin_Freeper

The Yurps won’t make any concessions because there are several dissatisfied member states who would leave if they could do a simple trade deal and ditch all the political baggage and they know it.

So May will trot this turkey out to Parliament one more time next week and get shot down in flames yet again. Then, hard Brexit on March 29th. This is what it should have been all along anyway.


9 posted on 03/07/2019 7:00:37 PM PST by FLT-bird
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To: FLT-bird
What other concessions would you look for? The UK-EU november deal said they would set up a transitional period, which lasts until 31 December 2020, but can be extended once by mutual consent. During the transitional period, UK will remain a member of the Europe Economic Area, the single market, and the customs union, EU laws will continue to apply to UK, UK will continue to pay into the budget. However, UK will not be represented in the decision-making bodies of the EU. The transition period will give businesses time to adjust to the new situation, and time to negotiate a new trade deal between the EU and UK.

The UK wanted this. remember trade deals take time -- even the RENEGOTIATION of NAFTA / USMCA took a year.

The big problem was on the Irish border question, the agreement sets a backstop which will come into force, in the case that there is not new agreement between EU and UK before the end of the transition period. In that case, UK will remain in a customs union with the EU. Neither party can unilaterally withdraw from this customs union. The goal of this backstop agreement is to avoid a "hard" Irish border, where customs checks are necessary

But the irish border cannot be made hard as per the Good Friday agreement that the UK signed in 1997. the EU did not allow the UK to bully Ireland.

what more concessions are you looking for?

Theresa may wants to beg the EU to offer a concession on the Irish backstop. That's it -- what do you, FLT-Bird, want the EU to do with this? Allow the creation of a hard border in NI-RoI that violates the good Friday agreement? Or keep the border open and that will violate what people voted for in the 2016 referendum. What is your plan for this?

10 posted on 03/07/2019 10:06:15 PM PST by Cronos (Obama's dislike of Assad is not based on his brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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To: FLT-bird
If you think the problem is trade, that means you haven't read through the agreement of November 2018 NOR the reasons that MPs rejected it in parliament.

The leave has no problem with the trade deal offered - it gives them full ability to trade with the EU

and really "simple trade deal" -- the UK gets to continue its trade with the EU with no borders, no tariffs, nothing. Simple enough? And you want to have a "simple trade deal"? Why is there no "simple trade deal" between the UK and US agreed now? Because there are lots of little details that stop it - let's take 2 simple ones - the chicken and the egg. American chickens are chlorine washed and American eggs are washed. Both these violate both British laws and British public opinion. If the UK bans this, it stalls a trade deal. And there are thousands of items. No trade deal is simple

11 posted on 03/07/2019 10:11:13 PM PST by Cronos (Obama's dislike of Assad is not based on his brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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