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Utah Legislature Approves Resolution Calling for State Convention to Change U.S. Constitution
Deseret News Utah ^
| March 5th 2019
| Katie McKellar
Posted on 03/06/2019 12:06:27 PM PST by Jacquerie
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Number 14. Yaaay!
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posted on
03/06/2019 12:06:28 PM PST
by
Jacquerie
To: Jacquerie
When bammy ruled by executive order they did nothing.
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posted on
03/06/2019 12:08:21 PM PST
by
I want the USA back
(Lying Media: willing and eager allies of the hate-America left.)
To: Jacquerie
How will this same mechanism not be used by collectivists to bend the constitution into secular totalitarianism?
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posted on
03/06/2019 12:08:28 PM PST
by
lurk
To: 1010RD; AllAmericanGirl44; Amagi; aragorn; Arthur McGowan; Arthur Wildfire! March; arthurus; ...
14: AL, AK, AR, AZ, FL, GA, IN, LA, MO, ND, OK, TN, TX, UT.
For a Convention of the States dedicated to Georgias application language, which would re-balance citizens rights versus federal power and state power, the count is 14 down, 20 to go.
For a Convention of the States dedicated to a balanced budget amendment only, the count is 30 down, 4 to go.
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posted on
03/06/2019 12:09:24 PM PST
by
Publius
("Who is John Galt?" by Billthedrill & Publius available at Amazon.)
To: lurk
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posted on
03/06/2019 12:09:53 PM PST
by
Lurkinanloomin
(Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here of Citizen Parents_Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
To: Jacquerie
The danger is the socialists will hijack the convention.
To: Jacquerie
and $22 billion of national debt..
I wish.
And this convention is needed BADLY.
I just hope they throw something in there about free pizza being an inalienable right :)
Unless it’s Pizza Hut.
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posted on
03/06/2019 12:10:32 PM PST
by
dp0622
(The Left should know if.. Trump is kicked out of office, it is WAR!)
To: Jacquerie
The state that gave us Senator Romney?
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posted on
03/06/2019 12:10:33 PM PST
by
a fool in paradise
(Denounce DUAC - The Democrats Un-American Activists Committee)
To: dp0622
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posted on
03/06/2019 12:11:23 PM PST
by
a fool in paradise
(Denounce DUAC - The Democrats Un-American Activists Committee)
To: Jacquerie
This is one of those rare articles where the journalist actually got all the facts straight.
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posted on
03/06/2019 12:12:44 PM PST
by
Publius
("Who is John Galt?" by Billthedrill & Publius available at Amazon.)
To: kaehurowing
“
The danger is the socialists will hijack the convention.”
Never ever underestimate the ability of career criminals to do sleazy things.
To: a fool in paradise
LOL
Mom made the greatest home made Sicilian Pizza when I was growing up.
But yeah I guess you’re right.
As long as there’s cheese and sauce it’ll go down :)
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posted on
03/06/2019 12:14:22 PM PST
by
dp0622
(The Left should know if.. Trump is kicked out of office, it is WAR!)
To: Jacquerie
This is the usual pedantic boilerplate that I post to these threads which explains how the process works. It's useful for those first being made aware of this option.
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The amendatory process under Article V consists of three steps: Proposal, Disposal, and Ratification.
Proposal:
There are two ways to propose an amendment to the Constitution.
- The Congressional Method requires the House and Senate to pass an amendment by a two thirds majority.
- The Amendments Convention Method requires the legislatures of two thirds of the states to apply to Congress to call a Convention for Proposing Amendments. Once the two thirds threshold is reached, Congress is required to set a time and place for the convention.
Article V gives Congress and an Amendments Convention exactly the same power to propose amendments, no more and no less.
Disposal:
Once Congress, or an Amendments Convention, proposes amendments, Congress must decide whether the states will ratify by the:
- State Legislature Method, or the
- State Ratifying Convention Method.
The State Ratifying Convention Method has only been used twice: once to ratify the Constitution, and once to ratify the 21st Amendment repealing Prohibition.
Ratification:
Depending upon which ratification method is chosen by Congress, either the state legislatures vote up-or-down on the proposed amendment, or the voters elect a state ratifying convention to vote up-or-down. If three fourths of the states vote to ratify, the amendment becomes part of the Constitution.
Forbidden Subjects:
Article V contains two explicitly forbidden subjects and one implicitly forbidden subject.
Explicitly forbidden:
- No amendment may be added to the Constitution concerning slavery or capitation taxes until 1808. Were well past that deadline.
- No amendment may be added to the Constitution to change the principle of equal representation in the Senate unless every state deprived of that right approves. If California wants five senators, every state must have five senators. To permit violation of this principle, every state would have to ratify the amendment, not just three fourths.
Implicitly forbidden:
- The Constitution of 1787 may not be abrogated and replaced with a new document. Article V only authorizes a convention for proposing amendments to this Constitution; therefore, the Constitution of 1787 is locked in place forever. Congress and an Amendments Convention have exactly the same Proposal power; therefore, neither Congress nor an Amendments Convention can start over. Both bodies can only propose amendments.
Reference works:
Proposing Constitutional Amendments by a Convention of the States: A Handbook for State Lawmakers
State Initiation of Constitutional Amendments: A Guide for Lawyers and Legislative Drafters
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posted on
03/06/2019 12:15:20 PM PST
by
Publius
("Who is John Galt?" by Billthedrill & Publius available at Amazon.)
To: lurk
> How will this same mechanism not be used by collectivists to bend the constitution into secular totalitarianism? <
That’s very possible. But with the huge increase in illegal immigration, this country will become less and less conservative as time goes on.
Why won’t some of these immigrants eventually join the GOP? It’s because today’s Democrats are shameless. They will promise those immigrants the world. Freebies forever.
So the time to roll the dice is now.
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posted on
03/06/2019 12:15:28 PM PST
by
Leaning Right
(I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
To: I want the USA back
that is the root of the marxist-muslims destruction and seeding of the demise of America..
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posted on
03/06/2019 12:16:48 PM PST
by
himno hero
(had'nff)
To: Jacquerie
How do we fix this?
“The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.” -
— Thomas Jefferson
That is how
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posted on
03/06/2019 12:17:09 PM PST
by
Vaquero
(Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you .)
To: Jacquerie
Nelson said. “How do we push back against the federal government?”
Honestly, how in the world are more amendments going to get fedzilla under control? Most of the federal government completely ignores the Constitution and amendments we already have.
To: Publius
Aside from the clumsy title, I agree. The news is straightforward.
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posted on
03/06/2019 12:17:57 PM PST
by
Jacquerie
(ArticleVBlog.com)
To: lurk
NOT a good idea IMHO(as if that matters!). Especially with the current crew of “conservatives” holding offices across the land.
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posted on
03/06/2019 12:18:13 PM PST
by
rktman
( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
To: kaehurowing
It’s a danger we will have to face. Get used to it.
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posted on
03/06/2019 12:18:44 PM PST
by
central_va
(I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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