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George Pell's barrister Robert Richter too 'angry, emotional' to lead defence team
ABC (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) ^ | 5th March 2019 | Damian McIver

Posted on 03/04/2019 11:35:17 PM PST by naturalman1975

Top barrister, Robert Richter QC, will no longer represent Cardinal George Pell in court for his sentence and appeal, saying he is too emotional and angry about the guilty verdict handed down by the jury.

Pell was convicted of sexually abusing two choirboys while he was the archbishop of Melbourne in the 1990s.

He is due to be sentenced on March 13 but has already lodged an appeal.

"I'm too angry and upset at the outcome to bring the objectivity that an appeal requires," he said.

Mr Richter said he will still be available to help Pell's legal team and is convinced he had a strong case in overturning what he called "a questionable conviction".

"I will not be arguing the appeal myself simply because I believe the Cardinal deserves someone who can be dispassionate enough to present the case to the Court of Appeal," he said.

"I'm too involved and I have been too involved for too long.

"I have not abandoned the team and in fact I believe the appeal should be conducted by people who are not involved in the trial — but I have every faith in the Cardinal's case."

Last week, Mr Richter issued an apology after he described Pell's abuse of a 13-year-old choir boy as "no more than a plain vanilla sexual penetration case".

In a statement he said he had reflected on what he termed "the terrible choice of a phrase".

However Mr Richter insisted his decision was not influenced by the controversy.

"Not in the least," he said.

"I thought I'd done a professional job here and I thought there would be an appropriate result.

"I am disappointed but the appeal will determine whether my disappointment and anger at the jury's verdict was valid."

(Excerpt) Read more at abc.net.au ...


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1 posted on 03/04/2019 11:35:17 PM PST by naturalman1975
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To: naturalman1975

Why would a plain vanilla sexual penetration case between an adult male and a 13 year old boy not result in a guilty verdict? Do they have looser laws on consent?


2 posted on 03/05/2019 12:42:14 AM PST by Oshkalaboomboom
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

It would not be relevant to the finding of guilt. It could be relevant to sentencing.


3 posted on 03/05/2019 12:58:15 AM PST by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: naturalman1975

Are there no statutory rape laws in Australia? 15 will get you 20 is well known enough in America to be put in a song.


4 posted on 03/05/2019 1:07:16 AM PST by Oshkalaboomboom
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

RE: why would a plain vanilla...

It’s NOT “plain vanilla.” The cardinal was never alone with the boys, and could not physically have done what they claimed. No plausible case; bitterly anti-Catholic prosecutors. This is a star chamber punishment of a conservative.


5 posted on 03/05/2019 3:32:37 AM PST by Missouri gal
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

Of course there are.

The age of consent in Victoria is 16 (although no crime is committed if both participants are over 12 and no more than two years apart in age).

This article doesn’t do a good job explaining the context 0 mostly because almost anybody reading in Australia, would already be aware of it. The ‘vanilla’ comment had nothing to do with guilt - it had already been conceded that there was a guilty verdict. The question relates to at what level the crime is at for sentencing purposes - the maximum penalty on each charge is ten years, but it can be quite a bit less.


6 posted on 03/05/2019 3:56:09 AM PST by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: Missouri gal
It’s NOT “plain vanilla.” The cardinal was never alone with the boys, and could not physically have done what they claimed.

I know basically nothing about Australia's legal system and I know even less about this case.For example,I don't if this guilty verdict was handed down by a judge or a jury.

It's easy to imagine someone making a false accusation against a Catholic priest/Bishop...for purely monetary reasons,mental illness,or both.It's also easy to imagine a judge or juror voting "guilty" out of personal bias.The Catholic Church is one of the most hated "organizations" in the Western world today...at least by "progressives".

It *is* difficult for me to imagine why a lawyer would refuse to represent a client because he/she disagreed with a guilty verdict.It's my understanding that in the British legal system a "QC" is a lawyer whose achievements and experience have earned him/her a particularly high level of respect.Perhaps this "QC" is trying to send a message here.

7 posted on 03/05/2019 3:58:08 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Mitt Romney: Bringing Massachusetts Values To The Great State Of Utah.)
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To: naturalman1975

I think that Richter has not done well in this case. He is a big name lawyer, but if I was Pell I would be asking him to step aside.


8 posted on 03/05/2019 3:58:15 AM PST by BlackVeil ('The past is never dead. It's not even past.' William Faulkner)
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To: naturalman1975

Question: Those defending and making excuses convicted Cardinal Pell, were you also defending and excusing the Penn State predators until even that became indefensible?


9 posted on 03/05/2019 4:09:38 AM PST by Reno89519 (No Amnesty! No Catch-and-Release! Just Say No to All Illegal Aliens! Arrest & Deport!)
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To: Gay State Conservative
I know basically nothing about Australia's legal system and I know even less about this case.For example,I don't if this guilty verdict was handed down by a judge or a jury.

A jury - in a second trial after the first resulted in a hung jury. Both trials were held more or less in secret - the media were not allowed to even tell people they were happening, although if somebody knew they could have attended.

It *is* difficult for me to imagine why a lawyer would refuse to represent a client because he/she disagreed with a guilty verdict.It's my understanding that in the British legal system a "QC" is a lawyer whose achievements and experience have earned him/her a particularly high level of respect.Perhaps this "QC" is trying to send a message here.

The lawyer involved has said he rarely participates in appeals where he as lost the case - he says it's hard for a lawyer to be objective in such a case so they should hand over to somebody else. But he has also been unusually open in saying he finds this verdict particularly strange. It seems fairly clear he feels there has been a genuine miscarriage of justice here.

And, yes, a QC is a Queen's Counsel - the term SC or Senior Counsel is also increasingly used - these are barristers who have been judged by their peers to be the best of the best.

10 posted on 03/05/2019 4:46:15 AM PST by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: Reno89519
As I'm Australian, I have very little knowledge of the Penn State case to which to refer. However, I have a pretty large amount of knowledge of the case involving Cardinal Pell. I believe he is probably innocent, but more significantly, I do not believe he has received a fair trial at this point. The media coverage surrounding him has become incredibly toxic, mostly without justification. It is probably fair to say, he has been the most hated person among the left in Australia for the last twenty years or so.

There are many reasons why the case against him does not seem credible. But I assume there will be an appeal and the Court of Appeals will rule on that - if they deny the appeal, I'll be inclined to accept the verdict at that point - but only a few months ago, they overturned a verdict against the former Catholic Archbishop of Adelaide, on the grounds he had not been able to receive a fair trial and he was a far less hated, and far less attacked figure than Cardinal Pell.

11 posted on 03/05/2019 4:51:18 AM PST by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: Reno89519
Question: Those defending and making excuses convicted Cardinal Pell, were you also defending and excusing the Penn State predators until even that became indefensible?

I didn't know Jerry Sandusky was targeted for destruction by Penn State after he performed an audit of its finances that uncovered not only malfeasance but blatant criminality implicating many past and present administrators as well as prominent and influential alumni.

12 posted on 03/05/2019 5:02:41 AM PST by Oratam
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To: Oratam

believe nothing from taxpayer-funded ABC. over a billion Australian dollars a year and they spew out hatred against President Trump 24/7.

they hate Cardinal Pell.

wait for the appeal process. nothing odd about changes in the legal team. perfectly normal.


13 posted on 03/05/2019 5:48:53 AM PST by MAGAthon
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To: naturalman1975
And, yes, a QC is a Queen's Counsel - the term SC or Senior Counsel is also increasingly used - these are barristers who have been judged by their peers to be the best of the best.

Being a huge fan of the TV series "Rumpole of the Bailey" (don't know if you're familiar with it) as well as a fan of "The Escape Artist" I had a hunch that a being a "QC" is a big deal in British/Canadian/Australian courtrooms.

And as for miscarriages of justice...they're certainly not unheard of in even the the best judicial systems...US,Canada,Britain,Australia.As you probably know here in the US the advent of DNA technology has resulted in more than a few guilty verdicts handed before its appearance being overturned.

14 posted on 03/05/2019 5:58:26 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Mitt Romney: Bringing Massachusetts Values To The Great State Of Utah.)
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A number of recent articles call the Pell verdict into question. National Catholic Register has a critique of the trial which makes it look worse than a combination of the Kavanaugh hearings and the Mueller investigation. 1) Only ONE victim and he couldn't tell a consistent story that could be aligned with the known facts. The second alleged victim had specifically denied the allegations more than once before he died of a drug overdose. 2) Pell would have been acquitted in the first trial, but somehow Australian justice allowed him to be retried. 3) Gag order by the court intended to prevent journalists from covering the trial.
http://www.ncregister.com/daily-news/the-case-against-cardinal-george-pell-new-details-emerge

Milo Yiannopolis’ comments posted elsewhere on this Forum don't address the trial, but explain Pell’s inconvenience to the Vatican Leftists as a swamp-drainer. The accusations conveniently prevented Pell from doing that. (How lucky for the Left. :-/)

15 posted on 03/05/2019 10:21:00 AM PST by Missouri gal
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To: naturalman1975
Keep in mind, as was said in another article on this topic:

Richter said he was in a difficult position because he could only propose a sentence based on the jury’s finding of guilt, not on the basis that Pell maintained his innocence.

In other words, this is in no way an admission of guilt. The defense is hamstrung because Pell was found guilty and is now forced to accept that decision.

In my opinion, Cardinal Pell has been rail-roaded. May God give him justice.
16 posted on 03/05/2019 10:28:24 AM PST by Antoninus ("In Washington, swamp drain you.")
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To: Reno89519
Here's the police interrogation of Cardinal Pell which was recently released. Watch it and make up your own mind.

George Pell's police interview video [excerpt]
17 posted on 03/05/2019 10:35:35 AM PST by Antoninus ("In Washington, swamp drain you.")
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To: naturalman1975

That should read:

I KNOW THE SON OF A B*TCH IS GUILTY AND I JUST CANNOT STOMACH GETTING UP THERE AN DEFENDING HIM AGAIN.


18 posted on 03/05/2019 12:52:02 PM PST by dirtymac (Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country! Now)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

that should have read:

‘a plain vanilla, DIPPED IN CHOCOLATE, penetration . . .

BTW does this guy believe that screwing a 13 year old is the plain vanilla stuff that is going on and no big deal???? who the hell is this guy??? a pervert himself


19 posted on 03/05/2019 12:56:21 PM PST by dirtymac (Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country! Now)
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To: Missouri gal

Sorry but I don’t know enough about the details of the case to have an idea of the justice of the verdict. So it’s safe to assume you would be comfortable leaving your child in this man’s care?


20 posted on 03/05/2019 1:01:24 PM PST by Oshkalaboomboom
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