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Agencies like the EPA and IRS still stockpiling guns, ammo while Dems push to disarm the public
The National Sentinel ^ | 3/4/19 | J. D. Heyes

Posted on 03/04/2019 3:46:54 PM PST by SleeperCatcher

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To: unixfox

The beach town of Scituate Massachusetts has a (I guess) Iraq war surplus mine resistant vehicle. Big, black (of course), ground clearance of about 3 feet, bullet proof windows that are a half a foot thick.
Tactically, pretty useless alone. They could better use the money to fill potholes.


21 posted on 03/04/2019 5:16:35 PM PST by glorgau
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To: SleeperCatcher

Eliot Ness was a prohibition agent which was a unit of the Bureau of Internal Revenue. You mean you are surprised that he was armed?


22 posted on 03/04/2019 5:17:22 PM PST by yarddog
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To: SleeperCatcher

To serve mankind. No doubt.


23 posted on 03/04/2019 5:17:58 PM PST by BipolarBob (Dad, Send lawyers, guns and money.)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

Yep. I don’t trust most of my neighbors. One is on the quick list.


24 posted on 03/04/2019 5:20:29 PM PST by wgmalabama (Mittens is the new Juan. Go away mittens!)
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To: precisionshootist

There was a time when civilians had access to and possessed greater firepower than the military. In the post Civil War West a cattle drive’s drovers likely had greater firepower than a platoon of US Cavalry. In the early 1900s civilians had access to the Remington Model 8 and Winchester 1907, both semi automatic rifles.


25 posted on 03/04/2019 5:21:57 PM PST by xkaydet65
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To: faithhopecharity
“We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we’ve set. We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.” Barack Hussein Obama, 7/2/2008
They don’t call it a Civil Defense force, that would imply we need (or perhaps that we deserve) defense. The official name is National Civilian Community Corps.

I think of it as the NatCCC, or more simply, as the NatCs...

26 posted on 03/04/2019 5:24:12 PM PST by null and void (If socialism is so grand, why are Guatemalans coming here instead of going to Venezuela?)
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To: SleeperCatcher; All
"Agencies like the EPA and IRS still stockpiling guns, ammo while Dems push to disarm the public"
FR: Never Accept the Premise of Your Opponent’s Argument

I don’t see any clauses in Congress’s constitutional Article I, Section 8-limited powers that reasonably give Congress the specific power to arm anything other than the military.

In fact, not only are the EPA and IRS “federal regulatory agencies” not defined in the Constitution, but the Founding States made the Constitution's Article I, Section 1 to clarify that all federal regulatory powers are vested in the elected members of Congress, not in non-elected bureaucrats running things like EPA and IRS.

So not only does Congress need to take full responsibility for all unpopular and unconstitutional IRS regulations, but since the states have never expressly constitutional delegated to the feds the specific power to police the environment, the EPA can disappear until the states do so.

Also, regarding the misguided, post-17th Amendment ratification Dems disarming the public, please consider the following.

Consider that the congressional record shows that constitutional lawmaker Rep. John Bingham, using murder as an example, had clarified that the states have never expressly constitutional delegated to the feds the specific power to make civil penal laws until the 14th Amendment was ratified.

"… our Constitution never conferred upon the Congress of the United States the power - sacred as life is, first as it is before all other rights which pertain to man on this side of the grave - to protect it in time of peace by the terrors of the penal code within organized states; and Congress has never attempted to do it. There never was a law upon the United States statute-book to punish the murderer for taking away in time of peace the life of the noblest, and the most unoffending, as well, of your citizens, within the limits of any State of the Union, The protection of the citizen in that respect was left to the respective States, and there the power is to-day [emphases added].” —Rep. John Bingham, Congressional Globe, 1866. (See bottom half of third column.)

From the 14th Amendment:

In fact, the congressional record also shows that not only did Bingham include 2A when he read Bill of Rights as examples of constitutionally enumerated protections that 14A applies to the states, consider the great irony that 14A gives federal Dems and RINOs the specific power only to strengthen constitutionally enumerated rights, including 2A, from abridgment by state actors, not weaken those rights.

John Bingham, Congressional Globe. (See 2nd Amendment (Article II) about in middle of 2nd column.)

Corrections, insights welcome.

27 posted on 03/04/2019 5:26:34 PM PST by Amendment10
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To: sergeantdave

>Owning weapons and ammo doesn’t confer capability in their use.

Correct. It does however allow one to use it to barter for other items. Can’t eat silver boullion, but is tradable for other necessities, guns and ammo no different. Even if you don’t own firearms invest in brass, lead and copper.


28 posted on 03/04/2019 5:32:50 PM PST by nevadapatriot
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To: xkaydet65
"There was a time when civilians had access to and possessed greater firepower than the military. In the post Civil War West a cattle drive’s drovers likely had greater firepower than a platoon of US Cavalry. In the early 1900s civilians had access to the Remington Model 8 and Winchester 1907, both semi automatic rifles."

Yes, and we need to get back to those times and fast. Only the military and civilians should possess full auto weapons. There is no legitimate use for full auto in law enforcement. Our police are supposed to be peace officers not soldiers. The proliferation of SWAT teams using military weapons, gear and training has taken our police departments in the wrong direction. The police are at war with the people. They view every citizen as a "threat". It's simple. Arm and train a government entity as soldiers and they will make war and that is exactly what is happening.

We need to take away all military weapons from our police. We need to ban wearing any camo and black military BDU's and other gear that only a soldier would wear. The police should wear blue and blue only. The police should never have military training of any kind. They are not soldiers, they are peace officers. Soldiers kill people and break things. Peace officers keep the peace and serve the people who are the boss. We also must have a total ban on "no knock warrants". These warrants violate the Constitution in so many areas it's unthinkable how they have ever come to exist.

The starting point is the complete repeal of the NFA and the GCA. Join and donate to the NRA with the condition that this be their main focus. The NFA and GCA is the root of all gun control.

29 posted on 03/04/2019 5:56:45 PM PST by precisionshootist
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To: precisionshootist

They came to exist with the blessings of Republicans and the war on drugs. Our own sins are important to note.


30 posted on 03/04/2019 5:59:54 PM PST by The Toll
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To: unixfox
When the SHTF they will be in the crosshairs.

Their firearms and ammo storage facilities will certainly be a target.

31 posted on 03/04/2019 6:00:19 PM PST by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: The Toll
" They came to exist with the blessings of Republicans and the war on drugs. Our own sins are important to note. "

I agree but it's time to correct that mistake. Judges sign these things by the hundreds on a daily basis. It's disgusting we have become so ignorant as to continue to tolerate this police state nonsense.

32 posted on 03/04/2019 6:03:32 PM PST by precisionshootist
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To: precisionshootist

No knock = Two Widows at least


33 posted on 03/04/2019 6:10:30 PM PST by The Toll
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To: null and void

well put


34 posted on 03/04/2019 6:25:50 PM PST by faithhopecharity ( “Politicians are not born; they are excreted.” Marcus Tullius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
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To: antidemoncrat

What’s more, agents accidentally fired their guns more times than they did intentionally,
= = =

And I get in trouble for an accidental adding or subtraction error.


35 posted on 03/04/2019 6:26:25 PM PST by Scrambler Bob (You know that I am full of /S)
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To: precisionshootist

Mark for later.

Full Auto


36 posted on 03/04/2019 6:28:56 PM PST by Scrambler Bob (You know that I am full of /S)
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To: unixfox

They are arming up, but how many of them know which end of the weapon to point? These are a bunch of paper pushers who aren’t trained or even know how to fire a weapon without hurting themselves.

Against veterans and hunters.

Should be interesting.

well versed in .308 and .223


37 posted on 03/04/2019 6:35:40 PM PST by Texas resident (Democrats=Enemy of People of The United States of America)
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To: glorgau

I wonder if it will still be upright after a collision with a cement truck!


38 posted on 03/05/2019 3:25:00 PM PST by SgtHooper (If you remember the 60's, YOU WEREN'T THERE!)
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To: precisionshootist

Yeah, One could probably guess that 15 to have at least one or two zeros on it.

However I did see somebody’s tagline and said our side has 1 billion or so bullets and their side can’t decide which bathroom to use.


39 posted on 05/02/2019 6:56:04 AM PDT by mabarker1 (Congress- the opposite of PROGRESS!!!)
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