[Windflier]

What I did say is that much, if not most, gun owners, will not make a final stand and hold out against ever-tightening gun-grabbing laws should Democrats be able to get those laws into place. Sure, there will always be people who hold out until the end, even if it means violence. But not most of the country, and not nearly enough for gun owners to ever wield the political power that we have today.

I think it's disgusting that you have such a low opinion of American patriots, but you went a lot further than simply expressing your dark view of us. No, you went to great lengths to convince poster SleeperCatcher that all is lost, and that he WILL turn over his weapons when the feds come knocking.

You dishonor us, and speak with the tongue of our enemies. Radical leftists would applaud your efforts to demoralize us, if they read your words. To the degree you've personally surrendered, you've taken on their colors, and are acting as their agent, but you don't even see it.

Surrender if you must, but stop trying to drag better men down to your level.

[BobL]

I give up on you. If you want Civil War 2, so be it. I prefer EDUCATING PEOPLE so they vote in a way (i.e., conservative) that prevents Civil War 2.

I guess we just see things different.