Despite drama, background check bill remains on track (NM - gun-grabbers winning)

The Albuquerque Journal ^ | February 26,2019 | Dan McKay

[CedarDave]

SANTA FE – A proposal to require background checks before almost any gun sale in New Mexico inched closer to passage Tuesday – but with some political drama.

The legislation, Senate Bill 8, narrowly cleared the Senate two weeks ago and is now mowing forward in the House, potentially its last stop before reaching Gov. Michelle Lujan Grisham, a supporter of the proposal ...

The House Consumer and Public Affairs Committee endorsed the background check bill on a party-line vote of 3-2 Tuesday – after a Republican lawmaker walked out, slammed the door behind her and later returned for the vote.

The dust-up didn’t slow down the legislation. Senate Bill 8 now heads to the House Judiciary Committee and, if passed there, on to the House floor.

The legislation appears to be in good position to make it through the Legislature before the session ends March 16. A similar version of the bill has already passed the House, suggesting the Senate version would succeed, too.

The bill would require a background check before nearly any gun sale, including between two individuals. Licensed dealers already must do the checks, but supporters of Senate Bill 8 are hoping to capture sales between two individuals who, say, arrange the transaction on their own.

The proposal has drawn opposition from many sheriffs throughout New Mexico, and about 20 counties have declared themselves “sanctuary counties” for Second Amendment rights, opponents said.

Gov. Lujan Grisham, a Democrat who took office this year, has called on lawmakers to pass the bill.

“I’m not daunted by obstacles, whether it’s NRA propaganda, rogue sheriffs throwing a childish pity party or bad-faith critics,” she said Tuesday on Twitter. “Legislative leaders and I will continue to fight the scourge of gun violence in our communities.”

[CedarDave]

The other important piece of gun legislation is House Bill 83 which would establish an Extreme Risk Protection Order Act — sometimes called a “red flag” law. It would allow any "household" member (very broadly defined*) to file a petition with the court asserting "the 'respondent' poses an immediate danger of causing personal injury to self or others by having custody, control or possession of a firearm or ammunition." If the court approves the petition and issuance of a search warrant, the "respondent" must surrender his firearms to law enforcement, but is not required to be arrested.

HB-83 is current awaiting a hearing in two committees in the NM Senate.

(*"household member" means a spouse, former spouse, parent, present or former stepparent, present or former parent-in-law, grandparent, grandparent-in-law, child, stepchild, grandchild, a person who has a child in common with another person, regardless of whether they have been married or have lived together at any time, or a person with whom the petitioner has been in a dating or intimate relationship.)

[CedarDave]

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[Ruy Dias de Bivar]

Like taking fingerprints in Tulsa and Oklahoma City for years, till it was found no crimes were stopped or solved. Finally it was dropped.

Don’t bet that this will be dropped as long as the Dems are in power. They love gun laws even though they will not prevent anything.

[FlingWingFlyer]

New Mexico has become another Old Mexico. It won’t be long before Arizona and Texas have to build walls along the state lines to keep the escaping “refugees” out. They’ll have to go north to the sanctuary in Colorado.

[DesertRhino]

” or a person with whom the petitioner has been in a dating or intimate relationship”

Go on a date with a woman, and if she finds a reason to be angry at you, she can have your guns taken away with a phone call. No appeal, no due process.
More importantly, you live in constant fear of that psycho sister who hates guns and your MAGA hat. You ever anger her, she has a fantastic way to take your guns.

And as for the background check between individuals. That also means someone visiting can’t borrow a gun. You can’t share one at the range. You can’t use a friends gun when out hunting. Kids cannot inherit family guns without a background check. And of course...it’s 95% unenforcable without across the board registration.

[Tijeras_Slim]

I attended the Torrance County meeting. No one spoke against the sanctuary proposal and it passed unanimously in less than 1 hour. Folks are fed up.

[DesertRhino]

“Don’t bet that this will be dropped as long as the Dems are in power. “

Dems will not lose power in New Mexico. It is 100% gone. The dems won every single statewide election in 2018. They have gone full California.

[DesertRhino]

At this point the illegal Mexican vote, other rampant voter fraud, becoming a mecca for foggotry and trannies, and the mentality of the old school New Mexican hispanics, it cannot be reversed at this point.

[Tammy8]

We are fighting back...give us a bit before you predict our demise.

[DesertRhino]

Your spirit to resists is admirable. But what method do you see that will overcome the Dem and Mexican hammerlock on NM politics all the way to the governor, both houses, and a supreme court who sees it all the same way?

I see no path out of this. I suppose it’s possible, in the way it’s possible that California might flip back republican one day. But it’s not very realistic unless a meteor hits the planet or something.

[Tammy8]

We plan to be the meteor. We may not succeed but we are sure not going down quietly without a fight.

[Lean-Right]

“rogue sheriffs throwing a childish pity party”

Our mother governor knows what’s best
for her children. To your rooms, boys!

[CedarDave]

Came across this article in the Santa Fe New Mexican. The author hints you living there are all a bunch of rubes. He further states a wall is not needed in the Bootheel, but humanitarian aid for the illegals crossing the border is. I'm not posting on FR (it would require a big Barf Alert), but the link is below for you and any others to read.

Bootheel needs humanitarian aid, not a wall

[DesertRhino]

Fully agree with you. Nothing to lose.

[LegendHasIt]

Instead of Walling off all of New Mexico, how about we just Wall off Bernalillo, Santa Fe and Dona Ana Counties and the rest of the state secede. It is only the main population centers that have gone full leftist lunatic.

[LaRueLaDue]

“Instead of Walling off all of New Mexico, how about we just Wall off Bernalillo, Santa Fe and Dona Ana Counties and the rest of the state secede. It is only the main population centers that have gone full leftist lunatic.”

You left out Rio Arriba County. That has been hard-core Dumbocrap forever. And Los Alamos, although they don’t matter much...

[LegendHasIt]

Yeah, I figured I left out a few leftist strongholds. I was shocked that lefty Taos county even discussed doing the Second Amendment Sanctuary thing.

[Tijeras_Slim]

We have a long tradition of not giving a crap what the government thinks. We’ll just go “land grant” on them, and outlast them.

[Tammy8]

Oh I am aware of that rag, that reporter was invited down here to camp in the area that is known as the Mad Max Zone but so far he has not taken the guy up on it. The invite is the guy will drop people in the hot zone of smuggling, they cannot be armed and no private security. He will drop them off with full camping gear provided, food and water and pick them up the next morning. No takers.

When our new governor took office we reached out to her with the issues here and this was her spokesperson's response: There is not an emergency crisis at the border that warrants the asinine and anti-American anti-immigration tactics endorsed by the president and his minions"

Of course the governor herself has called the mess here now on the border a hoax. But what she is saying about us is nicer than what we have to say about her.

[Tammy8]

They are sure not liking rural people much, getting pretty riled at us. Oh well.