Posted on 02/15/2019 7:09:29 PM PST by Nateman
For something so important there is not much coverage of this. As it gets closer to the 34 state threshold of course the coverage will increase. For the FUD crowd that number does not actually have to be reached. The closer it gets the better the counter offer put forth by Congress is going to become.
For a Convention of the States dedicated to Georgias application language, which would re-balance citizens rights versus federal power and state power, the count is 13 down, 21 to go.
For a Convention of the States dedicated to a balanced budget amendment only, the count is 30 down, 4 to go.
It’ll end up like the O.J. trial.
13 down; 21 to go.
Let’s roll.
Woo Hoooo!!!
13 of 34! Still, we really need several more states to pass COS resolutions this session. I will celebrate every one :) Since Texas passed in ‘17 we’ve been helping our kids in Maine and a granddughter in Oregon (all conservative) to push in their states.
Here in Texas we’ve used the grassroots COS team of several hundred people to carry on the battle in our legislature for property tax relief and Constitutional Carry. I was in Austin last week and this term we have a great bill about to pass for that property tax relief. A couple hundred or so from our COS team testified before the Senate committee. We’ve used the tools and contacts we gained from passing our COS resolution to continue to bring legislative visibility back to the voters.
I’m confused. Is this the same thing as the Constitutional convention that Ross Perot was pushing in 1992 and if it’s not what’s the difference?
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The amendatory process under Article V consists of three steps: Proposal, Disposal, and Ratification.
Proposal:
There are two ways to propose an amendment to the Constitution.
Article V gives Congress and an Amendments Convention exactly the same power to propose amendments, no more and no less.
Disposal:
Once Congress, or an Amendments Convention, proposes amendments, Congress must decide whether the states will ratify by the:
The State Ratifying Convention Method has only been used twice: once to ratify the Constitution, and once to ratify the 21st Amendment repealing Prohibition.
Ratification:
Depending upon which ratification method is chosen by Congress, either the state legislatures vote up-or-down on the proposed amendment, or the voters elect a state ratifying convention to vote up-or-down. If three fourths of the states vote to ratify, the amendment becomes part of the Constitution.
Forbidden Subjects:
Article V contains two explicitly forbidden subjects and one implicitly forbidden subject.
Explicitly forbidden:
Implicitly forbidden:
Reference works:
Proposing Constitutional Amendments by a Convention of the States: A Handbook for State Lawmakers
State Initiation of Constitutional Amendments: A Guide for Lawyers and Legislative Drafters
My fear is that the left will be able to use this to do away with the Electoral College. I see too much potential downside.
I had no idea Perot was pushing that . I went to Google to hunt something down but failed to find any articles on this.
For those worrying about a "runaway convention," the Convention could only propose amendments. Just like with amendment proposed by Congress, three-fourths of the States would have to ratify a proposal for it to become part of the Constitution.
If only 13 states say "no" at ratification time to an amendment proposal, that proposed amendment is dead.
Our founders were genius. The constitution, as one pundit has said: “ was almost perfect.”
It's nothing more than what Congress has had the power to do for more than 2 centuries. It's obviously harder to get a COS done since even an impending Civil War was insufficient to get a COS called despite President Lincoln and Buchanan pushing for one. No matter what is proposed 3/4's of the states have to agree to any amendment.That is such a big hurtle it's much more likely that good amendments will not adapted.
By the way RATs are very scared of this. A stinking Republican leader prevented its passage in Nevada and after the RATs seized power they killed the application dead.
And there are many more actively pushing forward!
Critical mass building!
Just remember that states have political parties with deep interests and influence, and states have ‘deep states’ too. That is where the representatives to an Article Convention will come from, as the representatives will be appointed by the states.
This could be a Pandora’s Box liberals could only dream of.
If it is a dream for RATS it's apparently a nightmare for them. RAT controlled states Nevada, New Mexico, Maryland and Delaware have rescinded all official requests for a constitutional convention.
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