This Bill Would Make Private Individuals, Businesses Pay the Price of Government Shutdowns

The Daily Signal ^ | February 12, 2019 | Jonathan Zalewski

[W.]

JSSTB! That is all.

[Amendment10]

As a side note to this thread, please consider the following.

Patriots are reminded that one of the very few powers that the states have expressly constitutionally delegated to the feds to tax and spend for peacetime domestic services is to deliver the US Mail (1.8.7).

So if you continued to receive mail during the shutdown, then for you the federal government effectively remained fully constitutionally operational.

In other words, the “federal” services that were closed during shutdown a few weeks ago are based mostly on state powers and state revenues stolen by the corrupt, post-17th Amendment ratification Congress, state revenues stolen by means of unconstitutional federal taxes.

"Congress is not empowered to tax for those purposes which are within the exclusive province of the States."—Justice John Marshall, Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.



Note that the states, not the feds, should be taxing and spending for custom state versions of constitutionally undefined federal social spending services like Social Security and Medicare.

In fact, the constitutional record shows that Rep. John Bingham, a constitutional lawmaker, had put it this way about the Founding States leaving the care of the people uniquely to the states, again, not the feds.

”... the care of the property, the liberty, and the life of the citizen, under the solemn sanction of an oath imposed by your Federal Constitution, is in the States, and not in the Federal Government [emphases added].” —Rep. John Bingham, Congressional Globe, 1866. (See about middle of 3rd column.)

Justice Brandeis had put it this way.

• "It is one of the happy incidents of the federal system that a single courageous State may, if its citizens choose, serve as a laboratory; and try novel social and economic experiments without risk to the rest of the country.” — Justice Brandeis, Laboratories of democracy.

• Note that the constitutional limit on states as laboratories of democracy is that each state must provide the people a republican form of government (4.4), cannot establish privileged / protected classes (1.10.1), or abridge constitutionally enumerated rights (Amendment 14, Section 1).

So the “federal” shutdown was a government-manufactured crisis / hoax imo, anti-PDJT Democrats and RINOs undoubtedly hoping the crisis would make PDJT look bad.

Trump job approval up 7 points after shutdown: Gallup

The remedy for unconstitutionally big federal government …

Patriots need to support PDJT by electing new patriot lawmakers to Congress in the 2020 elections that will not only promise to support PDJT's vision for MAGA, but will also promise to surrender state powers back to the states, including putting a stop to unconstitutional federal taxes.

And in order to make the surrender of state powers and stopping of illegal federal taxes permanent, patriots also need to support PDJT in leading the states to repeal the 16th and ill-conceived 17th Amendments.

[cableguymn]

all men are created equal. some more equal than others..

and it creates a 3rd class..

Democrats and the rest of us are the 2 current ones.

[qaz123]

How and why are these people considered Representatives of the people?

[clearcarbon]

"Democrats in Congress believe that private citizens and businesses should bear the ill consequences of government shutdowns that put furloughed federal workers in financially precarious positions."

Private citizens and businesses already bear the ill consequences of government when it is not shutdown. I wonder how many citizens democrats have killed so far with obamacare.

[Myrddin]

I can see a fairly simple legal way around this. If you want to incur debt as a government employee, you sign away your right to prosecute the credit or you don't get the loan. If the feds attempt to prevent that protection, they can expect credit to dry up. The reward of interest on a loan is a poor trade for imprisonment. No deal.

[Myrddin]

I can see a fairly simple legal way around this. If you want to incur debt as a government employee, you sign away your right to prosecute the creditor or you don't get the loan. If the feds attempt to prevent that protection, they can expect credit to dry up. The reward of interest on a loan is a poor trade for imprisonment. No deal.

[Let's Roll]

Just the way they didn’t have to deal with obamacare or rely on soc sec.

They have NO shame.

[robowombat]

This is an attempt to have a civil service version of the Serviceman;s Civil Relief Act. It keeps surfacing but never goes anywhere. If K Street could manage it they would get the military relief act voided.

[AndyJackson]

I think all of you misunderstand the fraud this article is perpetuating. What it is about is arguing for back pay for suppport servicers contrtsctors furloughed during the shut-down - making those individuals or their employers cover the lost wages. These are powerful outfits with huge budgets to deploy on Capiton Hill. Federal employees cannot lobby, but these folks sure can - in spades.

[justa-hairyape]

So if I cannot pay my rent cause the IRS fines are too high, where can I apply for relief ?

[mdmathis6]

It will cause a situation where financial institutions will raise interest rates on those identified as federal workers or they will refuse to loan to them. Their insurance rates will go up. Federal workers will find that their credit score may take a hit. Property owner may hesitate to rent to federal workers. This bill might be a hit with federal workers but their debt holders(who may also be leftist leaning) will resent the politicians that make them go broke in forcing them to carry the workers’ debts.