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Charles-Henri Sanson: The Royal Executioner Of 18th-Century France
All that is interesting ^ | 13FB19 | By Andrew Lenoir

Posted on 02/14/2019 5:42:33 AM PST by vannrox

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1 posted on 02/14/2019 5:42:33 AM PST by vannrox
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In 1789, after outlawing the privileges and prejudices given to executioners, the government proposed a single means of execution for all people — beheading — bringing Enlightenment ideals about the equality of the social classes to their logical conclusion. But, while the idea was (at least comparatively) merciful, its implementation held problems which only Charles-Henri Sanson seemed to see.


I wonder if our current socialist/racist leaders have decided we will be equal in execution or some means will be racists.


2 posted on 02/14/2019 5:50:25 AM PST by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Here’s an interesting slice of history.


3 posted on 02/14/2019 5:53:55 AM PST by vannrox (The Preamble to the Bill of Rights - without it, our Bill of Rights is meaningless!)
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“His flesh was torn away with hot iron pincers. The knife with which he had stabbed the king was fused to his hand with molten sulfur. Then, the executioner chained each of Damiens’ limbs to a different horse and sent them running in different directions. Two hours later, when Damiens’ joints still hadn’t snapped, the executioner pulled out a sword and dismembered Damiens himself before setting fire to the man’s still-living torso, reducing the failed assassin to ashes.”

I think they got him.


4 posted on 02/14/2019 6:07:39 AM PST by V_TWIN
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The guillotine, too, had achieved a popularity never before seen among execution methods (with the exception, of course, of the Christian cross). Children took to killing rats with “toy” guillotines and the device began appearing on buttons, brooches, and necklaces. For a time, guillotine earrings became a minor phenomenon.


This reveals a lot about the nature of humans. We are not a very pleasant lot.

This also reminds me of the fashion industry. Dated a gal studying design once. She asked me why emerald greed was the popular color that year. I said I never thought about it. But that color was decided by a committee about 2-3 years prior. Then the dye makers got on board, the cloth makers, the designers, the advertisers and pretty soon there was a new fashion.

Folks, everything is a fashion industry. We get bored with the old and want something new. This changes as we get older.

Note that one of the principles of conservatism is that we anchor ourselves in our heritage of what works, BUT we are also open to new ideas. The liberals constant argument is “the past is bad and needs to be destroyed”. That is how they perceive MAGA.

The good news is I think Trump understands this. It takes a while to set up a new fashion.


5 posted on 02/14/2019 6:10:29 AM PST by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: vannrox

Where is he when we need him?


6 posted on 02/14/2019 6:12:55 AM PST by VTenigma (The Democrat party is the party of the mathematically challenged)
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To: vannrox

This is an amazing post.
Thank you.


7 posted on 02/14/2019 6:14:38 AM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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The king offered his last words, “You see your king is willing to die for you. May my blood cement your happiness,”


Last words are always interesting. Anyone know the back ground to this?

I perceive some sarcasm in this?


8 posted on 02/14/2019 6:14:55 AM PST by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: vannrox

Great article. Thanks for posting.


9 posted on 02/14/2019 6:15:27 AM PST by LydiaLong
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To: PeterPrinciple

Last words ARE often interesting...

Lou Costello: “That was the best ice-cream soda I ever tasted.”


10 posted on 02/14/2019 6:21:49 AM PST by ArtDodger
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To: vannrox

Under the new revolutionary government of Georges Danton and Maximilien Robespierre, paranoia about internal “enemies of the people” led to a streamlined justice system


I wonder if our founding fathers looked at this. They designed so many checks and balances that it was difficult to change things.

WE ABSOLUTELY DO NOT WANT AN EFFICENT GOVERNEMENT. Many here was to pass a law to fix things. But all laws encumber us and eventually get used against us. How many times does a law get passed and the market place has already adjusted?

Folks, we need to believe and understand the role of the Invisible Hand and trust it.


11 posted on 02/14/2019 6:22:17 AM PST by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: vannrox

Outstanding history post!
The French revolutionary period fascinates me. It was the nucleus of blood-thirsty marxist philosophy.


12 posted on 02/14/2019 6:23:55 AM PST by MarchonDC09122009 (When is our next march on DC? When have we had enough?)
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Love the ending in The Scarlet Pimpernel when Robespierre
fails to capture the Pimpernel and Robespierre knows his
head is next to fall.

The brutality of executions back then is kinda hard for a
modern day person to read.

Old geezers think of the Scarlet Pumpernickle I bet.


13 posted on 02/14/2019 6:49:42 AM PST by Harold Shea (VN vet)
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To: PeterPrinciple

They didn’t need to look at the French all they needed to do was look at their recent English history - Judge Jeffreys & the Bloody Assizes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloody_Assizes


14 posted on 02/14/2019 6:52:09 AM PST by Reily
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To: MarchonDC09122009
“swords, daggers, four pistols, and a flask of power, and… pockets full of bullets”

Likely "Flask of Powder"

15 posted on 02/14/2019 6:54:39 AM PST by gr8eman (Since God has been banished from our classrooms, Satan has filled the void.)
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To: vannrox

When the forefathers of our nation were thinking of “cruel and unusual punishment”, they had to have had drawing and quartering in mind as such events were quite recent in their time as compared to ours. Crucifixion obviously had to be in their thoughts too.

Today we have court arguments suggesting those subject to lethal injection may suffer some pain during the killing process. The discomfort of a needle or momentary body pain occurring just before death is nothing compared to the hours long torture mentioned in the article.

Oddly, the same bunch of people arguing lethal injection could be painful are likely the same bunch favoring the Islamists that burn and stone people to death.


16 posted on 02/14/2019 6:58:34 AM PST by redfreedom (Elizabeth Warren has more Indian blood in her than journalism has truth.)
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To: vannrox
Damiens and Robespierre were from the same village.

Robespierre once argued against the DP, btw.

His paranoiac lust for power let that view fall into a very bloody basket.

17 posted on 02/14/2019 7:01:50 AM PST by Calvin Locke
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Bookmark


18 posted on 02/14/2019 7:04:53 AM PST by wjcsux (The hyperventilating of the left means we are winning! (Tagline courtesy of Laz.))
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To: PeterPrinciple

Happened with mold in Texas. I was doing mold assessments in the 90’s. There was a LOT of criminal behavior, and the state started writing regulations. People were “cooking” their houses, and insurance was paying out more than the value of the houses, complete inside renovation. The insurance companies put in a “pollution exclusion”, policy holders would not be covered for lead, asbestos, or mold claims. Problem fixed, mold industry died. Now the state comes out with its mold regulations, licensing, revives the mold business (somewhat, now heavily regulated).
My problem is I’m honest and have a conscience. I could have gotten rich, like many people I knew. I have lead, asbestos, and mold licenses, but I feel like an accountant. I help people deal with the regulatory agencies, and my clients are very happy with me (my competitors not so much, I keep prices down).


19 posted on 02/14/2019 7:06:12 AM PST by TStro (Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6)
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To: vannrox
I see what you did there.

It cut to the quick!

20 posted on 02/14/2019 7:21:59 AM PST by A Formerly Proud Canadian (I once was blind but now I see...)
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