Posted on 02/08/2019 10:21:42 AM PST by FoxInSocks
UPDATE Jan. 18, 2019, 6:30 a.m.: The U.S. Army Sergeant who told Texas state troopers at the scene of a highway wreck that he had saved a crash victim with a Saints hoodie and a ballpoint pen apparently made the story up, the Army Times is now reporting.
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According to Army Times, Lt. Bryan Witt of the Texas Department of Public Safety also said they couldn’t find “any evidence through our investigation that his story was accurate about the first aid he talked about.”
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Troney had just completed a rotation at the Army’s National Training Center in Fort Irwin, Calif., where he learned combat first aid, the release states. He also had a needle for chest decompression in the Jeep.
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Just one problem: the needle in Troney’s Jeep wasn’t long enough to reach Udger’s collapsed lung once it got inside Udger’s chest cavity, Army Times reported.
So Troney scrambled, and improvised. He took the plastic tube out of a ballpoint pen, emptied it out and attached it to his needle, according to the news release.
“I took the (needle) and put it right in the hole and kind of wiggled [the pen] in with my hand in between the ribs and you just started to see the bubbles come out of the tip, and I was like, ‘OK, we’re good,’ ” Troney said, according to the Army news release.
(Excerpt) Read more at star-telegram.com ...
More details from Newsweek in a story actually worth reading: U.S. ARMY RETRACTS STORY OF SOLDIER WHO SAVED MAN'S LIFE WITH A NEW ORLEANS SAINTS HOODIE AND BALLPOINT PEN.
There is a famous war story from WWII about saving a soldier’s life in a similar manner. Inspiration?
And I suppose Mr Wizard’s construction of a nuclear reactor from a fly swatter and a box of Kraft macaroni was a lie, too? You can’t trust anything any more.
I don’t understand why they think this is a lie.
Hmmm......
I was in attendance @ a college (Back in the 70s) trach (first aid) class where a PE Instructor showed us how to do an emergency trach by inserting a disassembled ball point pen into the neck of a dummy mock-up...so...maybe...
just a thought/memory..
GyG@PlanetWTF?
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Sounds like the media and the security guard during Atlanta Olympics.
For starters:
(1) fire department personnel pulled the patient from the car, not Sgt. Troney
(2) the patient’s name is Jeff Hayes, not Jeff Udger
(3) the patient has been a nurse for 28 years and said a needle decompression was not performed on him — you would know if someone put a hole into your chest!
other than in one story the man in the truck is Texas resident Jeff Udger and the other story it is a head trauma victim named Jeff Hayes.
Also when using the needle for decompression of a tension pneumothorax the needle does not go into the lung.
A trach breathing hole is one thing; re-inflating a lung is very different.
In the BSA (1960), I learned the trach breathing hole cut/insertion using a variety of different tubes: pen cavity, multiple straws, funnel etc.
Getting thru the chest cavity and into a lung to reinflate, is a whole ‘nother can-o-worms.
Yep!
No intention of trying anything like this meself!
Jus’ remembering!
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Me@PlanetWTF!
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I would do it, either. First responders have the knowledge and tools to get it done.
Savaged by law enforcement and the media.
He died too young but he lived to be exonerated.
The is an episode of M*A*S*H where Radar does this.
you don’t use the part with the ink, there’s no way he got the ink out of that. you use the outside part of the pen
I recall seeing this in the movie “Three Kings” as well.
It’s invenereal to me what they do!
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70s...I think I learned that from an episode of M.A.S.H.
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