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Dr. McNett is not a nobody. He runs the Aurora "pain clink". He also is in charge of the opiate task force in WI. He believes that opiates should only be prescribed for no more 2 months.
1 posted on 02/07/2019 7:35:43 AM PST by grumpygresh
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BULL CHIT !!!!!


2 posted on 02/07/2019 7:37:33 AM PST by al baby (Hi Mom Hi Dad)
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I consider ibuprofen the best over-the-counter pain killer out there. Aspirin works but its effect on the stomach can be bad, even with something like Bufferin (enteric-coated aspirin is slower to dissolve, too).


3 posted on 02/07/2019 7:39:00 AM PST by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's Economic Cure)
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Bologna. Baloney.


4 posted on 02/07/2019 7:39:43 AM PST by Pilated (.)
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CDC researchers found less addictive over-the-counter drugs, like Advil and Tylenol, are three times more effective than some of their opioid counterparts.

THIS is what insanity looks like!

5 posted on 02/07/2019 7:40:04 AM PST by BlackbirdSST (Con-gre$$, the biggest welfare class this country has ever produced.)
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They are in many cases. Especially for folks whose immune systems haven’t been battered by use of drugs, legal and/or illegal.


6 posted on 02/07/2019 7:40:30 AM PST by grania ("We're all just pawns in their game")
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That crap won’t kill toothaches. I know first-hand.


7 posted on 02/07/2019 7:43:26 AM PST by W. (Natty Light: The beer so nice, you'll taste it twice!)
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Anyone who’s ever had an badly infected or inflamed tooth knows this is BS. I usually take ibuprofen or aspirin, but in some instances of extreme pain, I’ve got an old bottle of hydrocodone with some left to use when necessary and I’m glad I do.


8 posted on 02/07/2019 7:44:15 AM PST by circlecity
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BS. Oxycodene/Oxycontin is far superior for pain relief. This “doctor” is a quack, and has no skin in the game.


11 posted on 02/07/2019 7:46:39 AM PST by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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My pediatrician had a suggestion for my kid which really popped a light over my head:

Tylenol starting to wear off before it’s time for the next dose? You can take ibuprofen AND tylenol. Stagger the doses, if you need to.

That said, after a surgery I once started coming out of my local anesthetic before I had my codeine in hand. It was excrutiating. And ibuprofen didn’t do crap. The codeine was immediate, blessed relief.

On the third hand, I needed two days’ supply, not two weeks’.


13 posted on 02/07/2019 7:46:49 AM PST by dangus ("The floor of Hell is paved with the skulls of bishops" -- St. Athanasius)
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When I had my triple bypass they gave me opioids, even though the only pain I had was from coughing, sneezing or hiccupping. Totally useless with horrible OIC. My best pain relief was a pillow strapped to my chest.


14 posted on 02/07/2019 7:48:05 AM PST by steve8714
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Another study that finds just what it set out to find.


16 posted on 02/07/2019 7:49:40 AM PST by Ingtar
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CDC researchers found less addictive over-the-counter drugs, like Advil and Tylenol, are three times more effective than some of their opioid counterparts.

...

The key word here is “SOME.”


18 posted on 02/07/2019 7:50:47 AM PST by Moonman62 (Facts are racist.)
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This is mixing apples and oranges.

There is pain, there is inflammation. There is pain and inflammation (or, pain from inflammation).

Pure opiods don’t do squat for inflammation. But, you won’t care about it.

Pure NSAIDs don’t do squat for pain. But, do wonders to knock down inflammation causing pain.

Opiod/NSAID combo’s address both.

Bottom line: if the NSAID works, use it to avoid the opiod.

Clearly, opiods have their place - eg, short period immediately after surgeries.


19 posted on 02/07/2019 7:51:10 AM PST by C210N (Republicans sign check fronts; 'Rats sign check backs.)
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I believe it depends upon individuals. When I had 5 broken ribs, I found Tylenol PM worked better that morphine or any OXY stuff. The narcotics made me feel trapped in my head and could not escape, e.g. trapped n a nightmare. Refused the narcotics and stuck with Tylenol.

Scary for me as Tylenol has acetaminophen. An overdose can damage your liver or cause death. Already have cirrhosis (non-alcoholic). So I go for as little as possible and endure the pain, it will go away, death does not. And cannot figure pout for the life of me why anyone would or could become an addict. JMO.

21 posted on 02/07/2019 7:55:42 AM PST by Tuketu (The i(D)iot Platform is splinters bound by crazy glue. TRUMP is the solvent.)
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I can’t quite buy this, but I’d like to hear from people who have more experience than I do with opioids.


22 posted on 02/07/2019 7:56:03 AM PST by rhombus10
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Bull crap

When I had my son, the post partum pain was so intense I thought something was wrong. The nurses kept giving me Tylenol and Advil. Nothing touched the pain. I got two doses of Ozy which was enough to allow me to tolerate the pain for about 18 hours until started to heal. This is complete crap


28 posted on 02/07/2019 8:01:55 AM PST by surroundedbyblue (Proud to be an Infidel & a deplorable.)
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I was on opiates for about three months—oxycontin and the like. Prior to that I’d nearly burned my stomach out taking n-saids. I promise you, the opiate was tons better.

When I started getting off of them after mending, my pain doc told me that opiates were actually some of the safest drugs to quit. Unlike some of the synthetics, he said, “nobody dies from opiate withdrawal.” Not comfortable, but tolerable.

Opium is a gift from God to sufferers.


29 posted on 02/07/2019 8:02:36 AM PST by tsomer (sk)
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Aleve. A L E V E. The only thing that keeps my back pain in check enough to function.

CC


30 posted on 02/07/2019 8:02:44 AM PST by Celtic Conservative (My cats are more amusing than 200 channels worth of TV.)
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Key words here may be “some opioids”. If the pain is truly awful (11 on the Borg scale of 1 to 10), nothing works quite like a few drops of morphine in the old IV. Suddenly it’s a bright and shiny morning and all that pain is off in someone else’s body. For longer term chronic pain and addiction to drugs that require steadily increased dosages for effect he’s probably right. Same dosage after a month won’t have the same effect and the craving and withdrawal can be worse than the pain.


32 posted on 02/07/2019 8:03:25 AM PST by katana
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My experience is that opioids do little for pain, and cause some nasty side effects.

I did take a few hydromorphone pills last week after having surgery. On the second day, I took one at about 11 pm and had the immediate thought that that was the last one I needed.

Tylenol does not do much for me. I take ibuprofen, and it does wonders for pain. Mostly, it reduces inflammation, which helps with the healing process as well.


36 posted on 02/07/2019 8:04:46 AM PST by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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