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The Cops Were the Aggressors in This Week's Deadly Houston Drug Raid
Reason ^ | 1-29-19 | Jacob Sullum

Posted on 01/31/2019 8:38:46 AM PST by slumber1

On Monday evening in Houston, a dozen armed men broke into the home of Dennis Tuttle and Rhogena Nicholas, a middle-aged couple who had lived in the house at 7815 Harding Street for at least two decades. The first man through the door, who was armed with a shotgun, used it to kill one of the couple's dogs. Tuttle responded to the home invasion by grabbing a revolver and shooting the man with the shotgun, who collapsed on a sofa in the living room. As Nicholas tried to disarm the intruder, his accomplices shot her. Tuttle returned fire, and by the end of the shootout he and his wife were both dead. Four of the assailants were hit by gunfire, while a fifth injured his knee.

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To: caww

So what happened to this dude.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7Ooa7wOKHhg

Get back with me.

No one should be above the law. That’s all we all ask.


221 posted on 02/01/2019 7:40:21 PM PST by wgmalabama (Mittens is the new Juan. Go away mittens!)
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To: caww

https://www.nbcnews.com/video/body-cam-video-shows-utah-police-officer-shooting-woman-armed-with-screwdriver-1294453827695

Or.

http://time.com/4860725/minneapolis-police-shooting-woman/

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CA9a8XvrIV4

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/26/jose-guerena_n_3988658.html

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/innocent-gamer-shot-dead-kansas-wichita-swatting-andrew-finch-a8134521.html

This all started when the shot Samuel weaver in the back in 1991. They got away with it. Then they took out ickiest Weaver with a head shot while holding a baby. Who went to prison? Follow the truth. It will set you free. It will not be pleasant.

If I am too focused on one rimeline or special “exempt in you mind” experience.

Let’s not forget the police who threw a grenade into a crib. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/ex-georgia-deputy-acquitted-after-flash-bang-grenade-hurts-toddler-n479361

He got away clean.

Hide all you want. It doesn’t change facts, history or the future.

Don’t bitch until you donate to FR. Otherwise FO.


222 posted on 02/01/2019 7:54:16 PM PST by wgmalabama (Mittens is the new Juan. Go away mittens!)
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To: wgmalabama
Police make mistakes. It’s human to make mistakes

Nice backtrack but you said most police officers were corrupt. That is utterly outrageous. That makes you POS.

The VAST majority of conservative and Republicans support law enforcement and most in law enforcement are conservative and Republican. So, stop passing your position off as anything but the identical to Colin Kaepernick, BLM and Antifa. It's no different. You're disgrace to humanity.

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/01/13/republicans-more-likely-than-democrats-to-have-confidence-in-police/

79% of Republicans say police are doing an excellent or good job, compared with 53% of Democrats.

223 posted on 02/01/2019 8:16:02 PM PST by Kazan
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To: House Atreides

Two videos for you.

One the house they hit
The other the were supposed to serve the warrant on.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HXj71a54ot0

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9XmflR0MWXc&feature=youtu.be

So you appear to be right.


224 posted on 02/02/2019 7:54:15 AM PST by wgmalabama (Mittens is the new Juan. Go away mittens!)
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To: Kazan
33-year-old officer armed with a shotgun entered the residence and was immediately attacked by a pit bull

How DARE a dog attack a stranger who has invaded his territory!!!

Gasbag.

225 posted on 02/02/2019 6:50:46 PM PST by an amused spectator (Mitt Romney, Chuck Schumer's p*ssboy)
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To: Kazan; walkingdead
But, you apparently want to assume the worst about the officers.

You misspelled "gearqueer dirtbags"...

226 posted on 02/02/2019 6:55:37 PM PST by an amused spectator (Mitt Romney, Chuck Schumer's p*ssboy)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep

Is this know-nothing “Kazan” a reincarnation of “Alaska Wolf”, famous jackboot-licking gasbag from way back?


227 posted on 02/02/2019 7:03:51 PM PST by an amused spectator (Mitt Romney, Chuck Schumer's p*ssboy)
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To: an amused spectator
How DARE a dog attack a stranger who has invaded his territory!!!

That isn't issue. The police had a right to be there. If a pit bull attacks a police officer in that scenario, that officer has a right to self-defense. And, according to those there, Tuttle start shooting at the same time the dog attacked.

All that adds up to the suspects either ambushing police because they were knew they were guilty of something.

Maybe that's why Tuttle's sister is apologizing the police. Maybe she knows him better than the idiots here defending the dirt bag.

228 posted on 02/03/2019 8:12:51 AM PST by Kazan
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To: Kazan
The police had a right to be there

You're a jackboot-polishing gasbag police apologist, Kazan.

The cops are going to get outed in this, Alaska Wolf.

229 posted on 02/03/2019 9:26:17 AM PST by an amused spectator (Mitt Romney, Chuck Schumer's p*ssboy)
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To: Kazan

Want to revise your comments?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6710563/Chief-Officer-lied-affidavit-deadly-Houston-raid.html

Boot licker.


230 posted on 02/16/2019 7:51:11 AM PST by wgmalabama (Mittens is the new Juan. Go away mittens!)
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To: Kazan

https://www.khou.com/article/news/crime/woman-killed-in-harding-street-raid-was-shot-5-times-autopsy-report-shows/285-7c677672-18ac-4355-8890-b221636f3d80

https://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/houston/article/No-heroin-Autopsies-show-couple-killed-in-13815280.php

The incident remains under investigation by the Houston Police Department, the FBI, and the Harris County District Attorney’s Office, which has also launched a review of more than 2,200 of Bryant and Goines’ cases.

Both of the cops leading this raid have retired quickly. They ruled the death of Rhogena Nicholas a homicide. No residue on either of the dead citizens hands. So the cops shot each other plus 8 in Dennis and 5 in Rhogena. You still can’t be more wrong in your cheerleading of the murder of these 2.


231 posted on 06/01/2019 1:25:40 PM PDT by wgmalabama (Mittens is the new Juan. Go away mittens)
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To: Kazan
Someone bumped this old thread and I ran across your comment.

They unleashed a pit bull on one officer, tried to disarm another and shot a total of five officers.

Turns out not one thing you said was true.

232 posted on 06/01/2019 1:38:27 PM PDT by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: wgmalabama
Amazing. A double murder but no one has been charged.

I guess like Mueller, you believe in the concept of guilty until proven innocent?

233 posted on 06/01/2019 2:46:20 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: MileHi
You're one of the anti-police jackasses that claimed these two were murdered. Where the hell are the charges?

It's beyond belief that you're proclaiming me to be wrong and yourself to be right when you were the one claimed a the police were guilty of murder.

The issue was whether the shooting were an act of self-defense. Of course, the police screwed up because there wasn't proof the couple was dealing heroin. But, it is an act of self-defense if the police officers aren't charnged with murder and THEY HAVEN'T BEEN.

234 posted on 06/01/2019 2:57:44 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: wgmalabama
They ruled the death of Rhogena Nicholas a homicide.

SO WHAT? Ruling it a homicide DOES NOT mean that those that did the killing are guilty of murder.

Apparently, you've never heard of the legal concept of justifiable homicide.

Unless, there are police officers charged with murder, the killings were act of self-defense AND I WAS RIGHT.

235 posted on 06/01/2019 3:05:45 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: Kazan

Anti-police? My dad was a cop, I grew up around cops.

As I said,

Not
One
Thing

you said turned out to be true. Including your last post.

Oh, and Hillary hasn’t been charged either, genius. Doesn’t change the facts.


236 posted on 06/01/2019 3:06:09 PM PDT by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: MileHi
And, YOU'RE WRONG.

For me to be wrong and you to be right, the officers involved would to be charged with a crime. THEY HAVEN'T BEEN. Otherwise, it is an act of self-defense AND THAT WAS THE ISSUE.

You a M-O-R-O-N.

237 posted on 06/01/2019 3:11:41 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: Kazan
Those people were the victims of a home invasion and murdered. The fact that they wore badges and have not been charged doesn't change that. There was no firearm in the evidence, neither had discharged a firearm. The cops shot themselves and murdered innocent people. The cops are being investigated and the final chapter hasn't been written. But it wouldn't be the first time a bad shoot was swept under the rug.
238 posted on 06/01/2019 3:25:19 PM PDT by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: Kazan

That they haven’t been charged changes NOTHING. Police seldom get charged, bad optics. We know the police chief was a corrupt political hack, so no surprise. They certainly should be charged for many reasons.

Any more names you want to call me? That all you got boy?


240 posted on 06/01/2019 3:35:14 PM PDT by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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