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IS SOCIAL MEDIA HATE SPEECH?
Bob Lonsberry ^ | 24JAN19 | Bob Lonsberry

Posted on 01/29/2019 3:26:51 AM PST by vannrox

IS SOCIAL MEDIA HATE SPEECH?

receive columns by email Vincent Vetromile is a 19-year-old Eagle Scout who likes guns.

His Twitter account shows that he follows the president and the vice president, is a Christian, and likes Fox News.

His profile picture is of a 1776 patriot in tricorn hat in front of a Betsy Ross flag, with an AR15 in his hands.

He’s got a Gadsden flag at the house.

He’s an all-American kid.

Who was arrested over the weekend for, according to the police, wanting to travel across the state and kill a bunch of people living at a religious commune called Islamberg.

The alleged terrorist from the suburbs is, on social media, exactly the stereotype progressives have of militant conservatives. He is the monster the Democrats warned you about. But the claims made about him are not a progressive fantasy, they are a conservative reality.

And they are one more chilling cautionary tale about the rage of social media and its potential to spill over violently into the real world.

I write this as a conservative myself. I write this as someone who scrolled uncomfortably through the accounts Vetromile follows on Twitter, hoping not to find my own. I was not there, but many others were who are part and parcel of the conservative cheering section on social media.

As well as still others – Confederate pride groups – who smell of something worse than conservatism.

On his @xXrebel1Xx Twitter account, Vincent Vetromile follows 71 and is followed by 298. That means he wasn’t just drinking out of the bucket, he was pouring in, too. Among his followers were CSA4EVER, Deep State Exposed, CSA Patriot and LifeNRA Patriot.

Among the people he follows are the conservative icon actor James Woods, conservative humorist Cloyd Rivers, Fox News commentator Sheriff David Clarke, and various Confederate, Second Amendment and Trump posters.

He mostly retweeted messages from others – including the White House and Fox News – having to do with illegal immigration, border security, terrorism and the chiding of Democrats and progressive causes.

In short, except for the Confederate fixation, he swam in the mainstream of conservative social media, and the things he followed and retweeted are followed and retweeted by large numbers of conservatives and Republicans all across the country.

And he is accused of being a terrorist.

Which ought to give us pause.

Do we dismiss this kid – and his alleged three confederates – as freaks on the edge, motivated by their own evil and dysfunction? Do we pluck them out of the stew in which they simmered and cast them aside, but keep the stew because we like it?

Or do we wonder if the increasingly vicious tone of political social media has crossed the line that separates civility from savagery?

I believe, increasingly, that it has.

It is easy for me to see the pure hatred that oozes from every particle of progressive social media. It is a battlefront where the only rule of engagement is the destruction and humiliation of anyone whose differing opinion renders them an enemy. It is a cesspool where violence is hinted at and fantasized about.

It is easy for me to see that in progressive social media.

But I cannot deny seeing it in conservative social media as well. Perhaps not to the same degree, but perhaps that view arises from my own partisanship.

There is a bloodlust which dominates the social media postings of progressives and conservatives alike. Not all, but most, in varying degrees. It is not love of country, it is hatred of opponent. There is less fighting for something, and more fighting against something else.

It is the language not of fellow citizens in a Republic, it is the invective of instigators in a civil war.

Some of it is done for money, as invisible patrons fund organizations, or clicks draw advertisers. People define themselves professionally as online assassins. Many do it out of the thrill of passion – even dark passion such as this – and the shallow and weak pose as big and tough behind the anonymity of faceless postings.

It is a knife that cuts both ways, that allows for the exchange of ideas and the advocacy of beliefs, but which also fosters verbal assault and relishes personal destruction.

And somewhere, on the edges, there are Vincent Vetromiles who will believe it is real. And who will take the hyperventilated rage of hateful postings and translate them into tragedies on American streets.

The wise will stop and think, and make sure that the current approach to social media is intelligent and righteous. Viewpoints should be strong, beliefs should be passionate, the tongue should be free. But the hatred should be restrained – by conscience, and by social convention.

For progressives and conservatives alike.

Right now social media is a Molotov cocktail that threatens to burn down the real world.

Vincent Vetromile is just one more indication of that.

- by Bob Lonsberry © 2019


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To: John O

If I want to fight,
On the whole, I would rather
Fight with my good friends


41 posted on 01/29/2019 6:20:36 AM PST by Haiku Guy (ELIMINATE PERVERSE INCENTIVES)
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To: Liz

Quite a list.


42 posted on 01/29/2019 6:27:35 AM PST by Louis Foxwell (The denial of the authority of God is the central plank of the Progressive movement.)
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To: ronnie raygun
"How the heck do you define hate? If you are white and against anything a black person, women, gay lesbian, transgender, Islamist, brown person, socialist, fascist communist, anarchist, dumba## rat politician has to say"

...just a slight tweak there...

43 posted on 01/29/2019 6:50:18 AM PST by bk1000 (I stand with Trump)
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To: vannrox

It’s a strictly voluntary venue.... tune it OUT of your life. PERIOD


44 posted on 01/29/2019 7:04:27 AM PST by SMARTY (Hatred is a feeling which leads to the extinction of values. Ortega y Gasset)
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To: vannrox

Oh no, he had an online friend who goes by LifeNRApatriot? And?

Having worked many real terrorism issues overseas and domestically for over 20 years, I’m amazed at the things that make it into the public limelight and those that don’t. We worked dozens of stateside cases involving Muslim terrorist training camps in the United States, methods radical Islamic groups use to move their people into the US, methods they use to make and launder money and the list goes on. Scant few of those stories ever make it into the media, but one misguided and seriously pissed off conservative kid represents all of us?


45 posted on 01/29/2019 7:26:38 AM PST by ManHunter (You can run, but you'll only die tired... Army snipers: Reach out and touch someone)
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To: ManHunter

p.s. My online ID is “Manhunter” (which was also my call sign and nickname at two different points in my career); I’m a Benefactor Life Member of the NRA; I have an NRA decal and a Retired, US Army decal on my truck and a Gadsden Flag license plate on the front. I suppose that makes me a terrosits, huh? Janet Napolitano and Barack Obama obviously think so...


46 posted on 01/29/2019 7:30:01 AM PST by ManHunter (You can run, but you'll only die tired... Army snipers: Reach out and touch someone)
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To: vannrox

Just more cuck virtue signaling from a good little house wigger.


47 posted on 01/29/2019 7:53:35 AM PST by The Toll
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To: Louis Foxwell

Halfrican had apparently been surveilling the population for a long time———had “a hate-America agenda” from the get-go.


48 posted on 01/29/2019 7:56:41 AM PST by Liz ( Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use.)
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To: Sacajaweau

Steven Crowder has a great segment on Hate Speech isn’t real. Change my mind.


49 posted on 01/29/2019 8:25:29 AM PST by pas
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To: vannrox

TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH, when uncomplimentary and spoken about the “protected” classes.


50 posted on 01/29/2019 8:37:37 AM PST by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: Haiku Guy

That is much better.
My faith in you is restored
Make it a great day


51 posted on 01/29/2019 9:44:43 AM PST by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: vannrox
On his @xXrebel1Xx Twitter account, Vincent Vetromile follows 71 and is followed by 298.

My Twitter experience is that if your follower number is greater than the number you follow in sort of this ratio, you're either a minor celebrity of some sort, or you think a lot of yourself.

I'm guessing "thinks a lot of himself".

52 posted on 01/29/2019 3:22:05 PM PST by an amused spectator (Mitt Romney, Chuck Schumer's p*ssboy)
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To: TheZMan
Wanna fix the BS in social media? Remove anonymity.

You're not a serious participant in the conversation.

Lefties proudly use their real names on social media - because there are no consequences to doing so.

Conservatives will be fired and/or harassed in other ways.

53 posted on 01/29/2019 3:25:48 PM PST by an amused spectator (Mitt Romney, Chuck Schumer's p*ssboy)
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To: vannrox

Social Media has real issues. But we don’t have any reason to believe the charge is true. On the other hand, we have every reason to believe that the PC FBI is ignoring Islamist training camps in Islamberg


54 posted on 01/29/2019 6:52:49 PM PST by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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To: ronnie raygun; vannrox

The current definition of hate is the saying or doing of anything that would have been considered normal and not worthy of notice fifty years ago.


55 posted on 01/30/2019 7:11:29 AM PST by RipSawyer
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To: vannrox; nathanbedford

“we are on the march towards tyranny”

“Bull turds! We are in a state of it, as it is currently being practiced. We are in the opening salvos of the second civil war and to pretend otherwise could be lethal for ourselves and our loved ones.”

I am 74, I have seen this coming since I learned to walk and yes vannrox, we have been in a state of tyranny for decades, not marching toward tyranny, it is becoming worse every day, to say we are marching toward it is like someone saying we are marching toward a mud hole when he is already knee deep in mud. If this is not already tyranny then I cannot conceive of what tyranny might be. Apparently many Americans have no real concept of what actual freedom might be, one must have a concept of freedom to know when he is already living under tyranny. Perhaps we should set about defining freedom for the benefit of those who have no idea of what it might be.


56 posted on 01/30/2019 7:33:54 AM PST by RipSawyer
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To: vannrox
The second civil war is not happening. At best there is devolution of states - two Californias, two Washingtons, New York and Chicago morph into federally protected city states. Aside from that, who wants gun confiscation?

War Zones are what we have. War Zones and no go zones will be the foreseeable future.

Is there anyway to prove you are an american? Who lives in Indiana without HVAC anyway? Your Chinese Agitprop is showing.

57 posted on 01/30/2019 2:04:03 PM PST by x_plus_one ( I pray Gods eyes may once again gaze upon me and remind me that I am still His child.)
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