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I’m a socialist and a historian, socialism is blooming again in N.J.
Newark Star-Ledger ^ | January 28, 2019 | Whitney Shrub

Posted on 01/28/2019 5:20:04 PM PST by GuavaCheesePuff

By Whitney Strub

President Donald Trump and his supporters hate socialism, that much we know. Whether it’s his friend Jair Bolsonaro, the newly inaugurated and scarily fascistic Brazilian president, declaring his nation’s “liberation from socialism,” or just his son Don Jr. making puerile tweets about taking away half of his daughter’s Halloween candy and offensive Instagram posts warning that freshman Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, a rising democratic-socialist star, will usher in an age of dog-eating, Team Trump leaves no doubt about its hostility.

The president himself frequently denounces socialism, and last fall, the White House Council of Economic Advisers issued a scathing report, report, “The Opportunity Costs of Socialism.” None of this is worth taking seriously at an intellectual level; the 70-page report is full of inane attempts to link U.S. Sens. Bernie Sanders of Vermont and Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts to such historical figures as Fidel Castro and Mao Zedong. It insinuates that somehow “Medicare-for-all” will repeat the “tens of millions of deaths by starvation” in Stalinist Russia. Even as scare tactics, this is a joke.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; US: Massachusetts; US: New Jersey; US: New York; US: Vermont
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To: GuavaCheesePuff

This article reminds me of an abusive boyfriend explaining how he’s not really the bad guy. It wasn’t his fault that he hit each of his girlfriends on so many occasions. He’s a great boyfriend. It’s just that every girlfriend he ever had provoked him and needed to be hit. Besides, the abusive boyfriend is an artist and likes gender studies.

This is the same reasoning. Socialism is fine. It just wasn’t done right by the national socialists, by the soviet socialists, by the Maoists, by Castro, by Pol Pot, or by anyone else who ever tried it, but the hundred million dead because of those outcomes are not socialism’s fault. Besides, I know a socialist who is an artist and another one who is a professor of gender studies. They must be good people.


41 posted on 01/29/2019 12:52:42 AM PST by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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To: GuavaCheesePuff

President Donald Trump and his supporters hate socialism, that much we know.


As did the 156,000,000 murdered by the wonderful system you are so enamored with, Mr. Shrub.


42 posted on 01/29/2019 1:52:57 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: Impala64ssa

“THIS TIME IT’S DIFFERENT!”, they shouted before the revolution. After the revolution the leaders declared them untrustworthy because they had betrayed their county and had them all shot.


43 posted on 01/29/2019 1:58:05 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: GuavaCheesePuff

He’s technically correct. Medicare-for-all will cause only thousands of deaths from rationing of medical care.


44 posted on 01/29/2019 2:10:36 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Ya lyublyu kovfefe!)
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To: GuavaCheesePuff

They always seem to ignore the history of failures and human suffering under socialism and push the “it could be Utopia!” crap.


45 posted on 01/29/2019 3:56:12 AM PST by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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To: GuavaCheesePuff

oxy moron from a moron if you are a socialist and a historian you must know socialism thru out history has not worked. socialism is for the masses not the socialist is what he is really saying


46 posted on 01/29/2019 4:09:12 AM PST by ronnie raygun (nic dip.com)
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To: GuavaCheesePuff

Q for the author of this swill: Your state is going broke and depopulating. Because socialism is booming...?

Just askin’.


47 posted on 01/29/2019 4:35:26 AM PST by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds.)
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To: GuavaCheesePuff

OMG. Check out this dude’s CV...

https://sasn.rutgers.edu/about-us/faculty-staff/whitney-strub

ROTF!!!

Nuff said.


48 posted on 01/29/2019 4:37:16 AM PST by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Winston Churchill astutely observed that “you can always count on the American People to do the right thing....once they have exhausted all of the alternatives”.

It seems as if the only way the American people are going to reject socialism is after they’ve tried it.


49 posted on 01/29/2019 7:00:54 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Spok
He says he’s a socialist AND a historian. That’s sort like being a witch doctor and a brain surgeon.

Pretty much all historians are socialists these days. I was a history major. I turned-down a fellowship because I decided I did not want to spend my days sitting in the faculty lounge watching my colleagues have their daily orgasm over Howard Zinn.


50 posted on 01/29/2019 7:02:09 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: GuavaCheesePuff; SunkenCiv; Impy; BillyBoy; NFHale; GOPsterinMA; LS; campaignPete R-CT; dp0622; ...

Socialists/Communists are genocidal racists.

Period.

End of story.


51 posted on 01/29/2019 7:28:29 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj ("It's Slappin' Time !")
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To: mewzilla

What a creep (and what kind of parent names their son “Whitney” today ?).


52 posted on 01/29/2019 7:31:26 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj ("It's Slappin' Time !")
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To: fieldmarshaldj

How about listening to a warning from a woman who lived through Progressive/Leftist/Nazi aggression:

https://israelunwired.com/progressive-america-is-following-the-same-path-as-nazi-germany/


53 posted on 01/29/2019 7:39:09 AM PST by ExTexasRedhead
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To: Lurkinanloomin

New York gives us Andrew Cuomo Mengele and his applauding band of baby murdering Gestapo in the New York Senate.


54 posted on 01/29/2019 7:46:52 AM PST by ExTexasRedhead
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To: fieldmarshaldj
More generally, genocidal bigots.

55 posted on 01/29/2019 7:47:23 AM PST by SunkenCiv (and btw -- https://www.gofundme.com/for-rotator-cuff-repair-surgery)
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To: GuavaCheesePuff; All
"President Donald Trump and his supporters hate socialism, that much we know."
FR: Never Accept the Premise of Your Opponent’s Argument

First, the states have constitutionally authorized only themselves, not the feds, to experiment with socialism, ultimately depending on what the legal majority voters of a given state want. Note that the states have constitutionally obligated themselves to not only maintain republican governments, but also to not abridge the constitutionally enumerated rights of their citizens.

Next, the reason that the federal government has given socialism a bad name is this. Post-17th Amendment ratification, low-information voters have unthinkingly elected crooks as federal lawmakers and presidents. As a consequence, corrupt lawmakers appropriate unconstitutional taxes without representation, accountability, and use such taxes, arguably stolen state revenues, to establish social spending programs with no express constitutional powers from the states to do so.

The remedy for unconstitutionally big federal government …

Patriots need to elect a new patriot Congress in 2020 elections that will not only promise to support PDJT's vision for MAGA, but will also promise to surrender state powers that the feds have been stealing from the states back to the states.

And to make this surrender of state powers permanent, patriots also need to support PDJT in leading the states to repeal the 16th and ill-conceived 17th Amendments.

Insights welcome.

56 posted on 01/29/2019 9:53:14 AM PST by Amendment10
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To: GuavaCheesePuff

Domino effect from NY.


57 posted on 01/29/2019 10:24:30 AM PST by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
Internet must be malfunctioning in CHI. Been almost 3 days. Nasty freeze bitter arctic 🍦🏂📵📴💮
58 posted on 01/29/2019 11:37:38 AM PST by campaignPete R-CT (Committee to Re-Elect the President ( CREEP ))
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To: campaignPete R-CT

Maybe.


59 posted on 01/29/2019 11:39:48 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj ("It's Slappin' Time !")
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Rejected in 1620.


60 posted on 01/29/2019 2:21:00 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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