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New York Bill Allowing Abortions Up to Birth Says a Person is Only “A Human Being Who Has Been Born”
LifeNews.com ^ | 1/16/19 | MICAIAH BILGER

Posted on 01/17/2019 12:05:38 AM PST by OddLane

New York’s leaders are pushing an extreme pro-abortion bill that will strip away all protections for unborn babies and some for mothers, too.

The “Reproductive Health Act” redefines a “person” as “a human being who has been born and is alive,” according to Breitbart.The state bill also describes abortion as a “fundamental right.”

This language will allow unborn babies to be aborted for basically any reason up to birth in New York. It looks like it will pass in the new Democrat-controlled state legislature this winter. Gov. Andrew Cuomo has threatened to hold up the budget until it does.

The legislation goes beyond Roe v. Wade, allowing abortions even when the Supreme Court has said states may regulate them, according to the pro-life leaders. Late-term abortions, which currently are illegal in New York, would be allowed, and non doctors would be allowed to perform them...

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: 2evil4words; abortion; cuomo
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To: cherry

Not nys.

They give that power to mommy and the doc she selects.

Nys just says she can do it if she wants. They legalize murder for moms.


21 posted on 01/17/2019 2:23:26 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: OddLane

Bill and Andy should have been one of the first


22 posted on 01/17/2019 2:50:44 AM PST by ronnie raygun (nic dip.com)
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To: DoughtyOne
I consider this a criminal act. It’s equal to genocide

I fully agree.

23 posted on 01/17/2019 3:03:43 AM PST by Ron H. (Gab.ai)
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To: gasport

Ben Shapiro had an interesting comment on his show yesterday. He said location can’t determine whether something is human or not.


24 posted on 01/17/2019 3:10:28 AM PST by killermosquito (Buffalo, Detroit (and eventually France) is what you get when liberalism runs its course.)
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To: DoughtyOne

Yes. Someday there will be cultural war crime trials much like the Nuremburg trials. The evil degenerates who vote for this will be convicted of crimes against humanity.


25 posted on 01/17/2019 3:28:50 AM PST by DeplorablePaul
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To: OddLane

Removing a fetus from the womb is technically a “birth”. So if the woman is not going to hold the fetus in her womb for the rest of her life, aborting, by removal of the fetus, will be illegal per the new law, if enacted.


27 posted on 01/17/2019 3:35:51 AM PST by zaxtres
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To: Secret Agent Man

Before you call for us all to burn, kindly keep in mind that Cuomo only won about a fourth on NYS’s counties.

In any case, at least some of this is in direct contravention of the BIAPA. And if that has not been repealed, then federal law trumps state law and infanticide is still illegal.


28 posted on 01/17/2019 3:42:41 AM PST by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds.)
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To: OddLane

>>The “Reproductive Health Act” redefines a “person” as “a human being who has been born and is alive,”

Obama didn’t even believe being born alive made you a person and shielded hospitals that left such babies to die in linen closets.

Criminal. EVIL. Unholy.


29 posted on 01/17/2019 3:44:13 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Denounce DUAC - The Democrats Un-American Activists Committee)
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To: Secret Agent Man
Gov. Cuomo won only seven counties north of New York City
30 posted on 01/17/2019 3:46:09 AM PST by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds.)
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30 seconds before medically defined birth you stab the full term baby to death while still in the mother and that’s just fine. Nothing to see here. Move along citizen.


31 posted on 01/17/2019 3:46:57 AM PST by USCG SimTech
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To: Political Junkie Too
If a deranged person kicks a pregnant woman in the belly one week before her due date, it's murder. If the mother chooses to abort one week before her due date, what is it?

That would be a way to have the law struck down by the Supreme Court as a violation of "equal protection".

32 posted on 01/17/2019 3:48:40 AM PST by PapaBear3625 ("Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities." -- Voltaire)
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To: OddLane

If New York can, by law, specify that a fetus does not become a person until actual birth, then could not any other state enact a law making a fetus a person upon conception. When a fetus becomes a person determines when they acquire constitutional protection under the fifth amendment. I believe Roe v Wade avoided specifying a date to get around that issue.


33 posted on 01/17/2019 3:51:44 AM PST by etcb
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To: All
Everybody knows in order to get anywhere politically, one has to appease the ravenous blood-thirsty Planned Parenthood savages....
gotta keep the blood supply flowing to earn the votes of this crowd.

Lefty Cuomo has gone "full banana republic."

One wonders what this craven beast will do next.....as he longingly eyes the WH?

34 posted on 01/17/2019 3:52:36 AM PST by Liz (Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use.)
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Cuomo has threatened to hold up the budget until they've passed the “Reproductive Health Act”
which redefines a “person” as “a human being who has been born and is alive”................

Good move Andy.......go ahead, redefine “person” as “a human being who has been born and is alive”................

That effectively leaves you out ....b/c many people do not consider you a human person.

35 posted on 01/17/2019 3:57:04 AM PST by Liz (Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

The article is somewhat inaccurate. The section that says a baby is not a human until a live birth is specifically under the definition of abortion. I still thinks it is problematic since murder is defined as:

§ 6. Section 125.00 of the penal law is amended to read as follows:
§ 125.00 Homicide defined.
Homicide means conduct which causes the death of a person [or an unborn child with which a female has been pregnant for more than twenty-four weeks] under circumstances constituting murder, manslaughter in
the first degree, manslaughter in the second degree, OR criminally negligent homicide[,abortion in the first degree or self-abortion in the first degree].

The abortion section is:

§ 7. The section heading, opening paragraph and subdivision 1 of section 125.05 of the penal law are amended to read as follows:
Homicide[, abortion] and related offenses; definitions of terms]

DEFINITION.
The following [definitions are] DEFINITION IS applicable to this article:
[1.] “Person,” when referring to the victim of a homicide, means a human being who has been born and is alive.

Two definition of homicide may become a issue in court with a good lawyer.


36 posted on 01/17/2019 4:02:16 AM PST by usnavy_cop_retired (Retiree in the P.I. living as a legal immigrant)
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To: OddLane

The acceptance of human abortion as just another procedure, to be used for various and sundry reasons while making vast amounts of money for the abortion practioners, is really the gateway to the abolition of different races of humanity from the face of the earth. It used to be black people who were the enslaved objects of others. Now, whites have been targeted as the “problem.” I ask myself, as I am now mostly an observer of the coming holocaust, whether widespread drug use among those who head up our national institutions, has drugged and numbed the normal, natural emotional responses to life, in these people, to an extent that only insanity now rules Western Civilization and, that, we now must look to more primitive societies and their way of life to rescue our planet. Oh, we still do have men and women of distinguished learning, education and wisdom, Victor David Hansen from the Hoover Institution, for one, but their voices are drowned out in the daily melee of rabble and nothingness from those who have hardly begun to live, in the fake news press, in our colleges and, now, among the loudest voices in Congress and in those lusting for power over the US. Forgive me if I offend with my thoughts. I am old..I have experienced too much of human nature and know too much about science, religion and history, to throw my hat into the new ring of existence where every fake assessment leads to an abyss where no one will escape. If your mind is number by substances, have a good day. If not, pray for strength to find joy beyond this sad realm and, if you still have hope, pray that human decency and the value for human life will not be lost forever in the world.


37 posted on 01/17/2019 4:22:44 AM PST by jazzlite
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To: OddLane

So to the Party of Science there’s some kind of magic in the 4 inch trip down a woman’s vagina.


38 posted on 01/17/2019 4:24:11 AM PST by Kozak (DIVERSITY+PROXIMITY=CONFLICT)
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To: GOPe Means Bend Over Spell Run

Hillary met with Cuomo to help get this passed.


39 posted on 01/17/2019 4:27:06 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: gasport

Before birth, the ductus arteriosus and foramen ovale are open.

After birth, both are closed.

Those are about the only physical changes between the fetus and baby.
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Does the law clarify exactly how much of the baby has to out before it is murder?


40 posted on 01/17/2019 4:40:19 AM PST by bramps (It's the Islam, stupid!)
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