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I have to disagree with you that the founders had a legal right to secede. There was noting in English law allowing a colony to become free and independent from the British Empire. Just like there is nothing in the US constitution allowing a state to declare its independence from the federal government.

The founders did claim a moral right under natural law to rebel for a long train of abuses and usurpations. Contrast that with the fire-eaters that tried to claim a legal right existed under the constitution to declare themselves free. After someone they don’t like is elected in a free and fair election.

OIFVeteran: "I have to disagree with you that the founders had a legal right to secede...
The founders did claim a moral right under natural law to rebel for a long train of abuses and usurpations. "

Right. Natural law right.

OIFVeteran: "Contrast that with the fire-eaters that tried to claim a legal right existed under the constitution to declare themselves free.
After someone they don’t like is elected in a free and fair election."

1860 secessionists claimed many rights, including:

"...the right of a State to govern itself; and the right of a people to abolish a Government when it becomes destructive of the ends for which it was instituted."

But you're right, of course -- 1861 Confederates seceded from and declared war against the government 1776 Founders fought to establish.
And this while their own Southern Democrats still ruled over Washington, DC.