[FLT-bird]

jeffersondemL The 13 Free and Independent states that defended themselves against King George, and the 13 free and independent states (say 11) that defended themselves against Lincoln - all of them had slaves. Is that your point?<.i>

THE big difference was that there were two competing superpowers in the 1770s. There were not in the 1860s.

[BroJoeK]

FLT-bird: "THE big difference was that there were two competing superpowers in the 1770s.
There were not in the 1860s."

Plus the fact that the South in 1860 already had the Constitution our Founders fought to make possible in 1776.
That makes any comparison of Founders to Confederates totally bogus.