Posted on 01/08/2019 12:04:42 PM PST by SMGFan
Majority leader says technology, more personnel at border would be more effective than barrier
House Majority Leader Steny H. Hoyer said Democratic leadership has not yet discussed what their reaction would be if President Donald Trump were to follow through on his threat to declare a national emergency on the border to build his wall, but he said a lawsuit is certainly a possibility.
Hoyer reiterated Democrats’ opposition to a border wall and said they’re not really interested in alternative barriers either. He said experts have said neither a wall nor fencing is what’s really needed at the border but rather technology, drones and more personnel. Democrats and Republicans remain at an impasse over border security funding and seem unlikely to reach a compromise soon to reopen the government, which has been partially shut down now for 18 days.
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Then I guess they won't know how to respond tonight when he does.
So?
Why hasn’t Trump fired all of the Obama judges?
Well, this is the order in which I see things happen under your scenario:
Trump declares emergency, starts ball rolling for military to fund wall.
Trump signs a Continuing Resolution to reopen government, but the CR has no wall funding in it.
Government reopens.
Dems then sue and the wall is put on hold by a judge issuing a restraining order until the case can be litigated, but in the meantime government is still open.
Six months later the Supreme Court either lets the lower court injunction stand, or rules against Trump re. emergency declaration.
We get no wall, and the Democrats get credit for re-opening government.
No, I don't think that declaring an emergency is the correct path for Trump. He needs to stand firm on the shutdown until the Dems give him his wall funding.
I think the talking head on Fox’s Special Report put it best. All these drones and people could disappear if the next government decided not to fund out. A WALL would be there no matter what the finding level.
Build the wall is the right idea along with adding additional security.
Keeping the free flow of smugglers, coyotes, criminals and and others going since the last legal amnesty.. Your modern day DemocRats.
No, Trump would not sign legislation that opens the gov’t for the rest of the year.
He declares the emergency, and they start building the wall. How can it be stopped if it’s an emergency?
What part of the word Emergency do they not understand?
In a national Emergenc, judges don’t count
An injunction doesn’t matter.
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I’ll bet you a thousand dollars Trump wins on this.
That is an excellent idea!
So the government stays shut down forever?
He declares the emergency, and they start building the wall. How can it be stopped if it’s an emergency?
It can easily be stopped by someone, anyone, filing suit alleging that a state of National Emergency did not exist when Trump made his declaration, and that an immediate cease and desist order be issued against the construction of the wall until the matter is fully litigated.
Remember when Trump issued an executive order, fully supported by law, to stop issuing visas to people from several Middle Eastern countries? (The Travel Ban.)
That was stopped by a Hawaii judge for almost a year, as the case meandered from his District Court to the 9th Circuit, to a 9th en banc, to the Supreme Court.
The same part as the part "shall not be infringed" they do not understand.
I'll see your word Emergency, and raise you two words: Travel Ban.
Trump had extremely clear statutory language granting him broad leeway in issuing the Travel Ban Executive Order, but still had it successfully delayed in the courts.
And how would the Court enforce it?
The pinheaded nitwit is from maryland, the Freak state. Many are already “in residence”...and likely voting. Anti-American losers.
we have technology but until we have drones that can physically pick up a person and fly them to a BP person, it doesn’t work as effectively as a barrier.
Barriers also channel people to specific points, where larger facilities are better equipped to deal with the invaders. Anyone who thinks that more manpower is the only answer has never been to the border, or the remote areas, or even to the desert, but they still expect BP to stay alive, isolated from all support. Not to mention adding more pensions to the govt tab isn’t exactly cost effective.
Meadow muffins.
Won’t reach SCOTUS.
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Let them sue. Mountains of tape, editorials, and general reporting show all of the mouthy Dems SUPPORTING the Wall sometime in the past. Very easy to show they are simply playing politics with our national security. Constitution gives decisions about national security to the president.
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